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To: snowrip

How about cutting Social Security and medicare benefits... FOR ALL THE FRIGGING ILLEGAL ALIENS.


And then for the 60-somethings who are perfectly capable of working, and can still look forward to an extended retirement. And for those who have saved enough that the payment is a pittance anyway (repay them with an accumulated estate tax credit).

This cutting can be decided after adopting a plan that ensures annual solvency by floating the retirement age. The impatient 60-somethings can lobby against the illegals, cheats, and wealthy retirees to see how many extra months of retirement they can win in Congress.

But SS must not drag down our nation with added borrowing, as it is doing now.


47 posted on 07/08/2011 7:02:18 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Beelzebubba
And then for the 60-somethings who are perfectly capable of working, and can still look forward to an extended retirement. And for those who have saved enough that the payment is a pittance anyway (repay them with an accumulated estate tax credit).

Izzat you, Lindsay?

Here's the deal - benefits should be paid out pro rata based on what was paid into the system by the individual and his/her employer over their working years. No more, no less. You redistributionists that think that because somebody took the care to save for old age shouldn't get a benefit but somehow, the deadbeat high school dropout democrat base that paid little into the system over the years should get a benefit are basically liberals.

The problem with SS, besides the fact that it shouldn't exist in the first place, is that the benefit isn't tightly based on the contribution. If you've accumulated 100,000 in contributions over your working years, then your benefit should reflect that amount based on actuary tables and your chosen retirement age. There is NO logical reason that someone that never paid into the system should get ANY benefit, including SSI and disability. There is also no logical reason that anybody that's paid in all their life should get screwed because they had the sense to save for their own future instead of squandering their income away over the years.

53 posted on 07/08/2011 7:14:34 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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