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Posted on 07/10/2011 11:05:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
I heard this on BBC Australia this morning.
They are pissed!
Just what is with these carbon theft morons??????? Stop stealing from people, you freaks!
Oh, I guarantee they are all lined up to profit personally from the regulations.
Gravy sucking pigs!
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Never underestimate the leftists. They don’t think they are committing political suicide. They believe they can win and not be voted out in the next election IMO. They may employ lies, deceit, bribes, fraud, or whatever; but they think they can impose their will and not suffer the consequences.
This is exactly what it is—theft. Carbon exchanges that will be set up will benefit the same bunch of crooks who populate the world’s elites but will screw the middle class big time.
More’s the pity.
They didn’t make a whimper when their guns were rounded up Down Under.
I don’t expect anything from this either.
what a freaking disaster
LOL .. Let the people speak and shout! Loud and clear!
On my wish list of places I’d like to visit. may have to do it in an urn at this rate.
Would they tax us even unto death,, all for the air we breathe? crazy.
Carbon Sunday: the early reaction
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Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced the detail of the government's carbon tax. The commentariat has been quick to respond:
"Julia Gillard has gambled on a massive compensation package of tax cuts and benefits rises for most people to cover scepticism about a carbon tax and fears of job losses and rising costs.
In what could easily have been converted into a tax reform agenda the Prime Minister has gone as far as possible to spread the revenue from tax to households and away from business.
Business, particularly coal mining and electricity generation, carry the vast burden of the tax through direct costs and fuel imposts.
In a package that dwells far more on compensation than abating greenhouse gas emissions, Labor is trying to bury fears about price rises and reassuring voters that the "average" costs to the "average" voter will be over compensated.
But the question will be whether householders believe that the initial up front payments, which avoid a heavy cost in the crucial year of returning to Budget surplus, will actually offset the price rises in power and food that roll through from the tax and fuel imposts."
Denis Shanahan - The Australian
"This is a better package than the CPRS it is so closely modelled on, but not by a lot.
The key problem with the CPRS was that compensation for emissions intensive industries was so great and went for so long that it neutered the price signal, meaning the entire scheme was a giant money circulator that wouldn’t have started decarbonising the economy until well into the 2020s.
The same levels of assistance will apply to big polluters again, but this time the Productivity Commission will be on the case to review whether the assistance is justified and there’s an in-built bias toward reduction in assistance to the levels proposed by Ross Garnaut in his updated report if the PC agrees. But big polluters have a guarantee that their assistance won’t be cut until at least 2018, although the PC can start its 2014-15 review early if it believes there are industries making windfall gains from compensation. Which, of course, they will be.
There will also be an independent body to examine the case for accelerating Australia’s laughably unambitious target of 5% by 2020. The Climate Change Authority could become a potent independent source of advice that will pressure future governments inclined to recalcitrance in the key issue of how quickly we proceed with decarbonising the economy."
Bernard Keane - Crikey
"Looks to me like a better package than version knocked back under Rudd. Goes long way to answering concerns. But will people believe Gillard?"
Laurie Oakes - Twitter
"It is what it was always supposed to be — a gradual start to what will in the end be a major economic change.
In many ways it is initially more cautious than Kevin Rudd's carbon pollution reduction scheme, although the Greens have won concessions that keep the door open for faster change if global action steps up in the future.
But it is by necessity complex. And there are some losers. Explaining all the giving and taking that means most families will be ok is going to be very hard. Explaining the long tern benefits even more difficult.
But for Tony Abbott, finding someone, somewhere who feels worst off will be a cinch. Which means the overall modesty of this package could still get lost in the telling."
Lenore Taylor - The Sydney Morning Herald
"With all these exclusions and these giveaways, this carbon dioxide tax increasingly seems to be a mere revenue raiser for a government out to redistribute wealth."
Andrew Bolt - Herald Sun
"The carbon tax announcement is way more generous than I expected... Almost bordering on a bribe."
David Koch - Twitter
It’s a Greens victory!
Tim Blair - Daily Telegraph
"They have obviously seen it as an opportunity to pursue a social justice agenda on taxation, as well as an opportunity for carbon pricing. That’s a way to negate some of the attacks on the cost of living impacts. I think that’s a smart move, to tie it to an overhaul of the tax system.
I would have liked to have seen a faster escalation in the price over the first few years. I think $23 a tonne is very much a softly, softly approach and isn’t going to drive a lot of new investment in clean energy. Only going up 2.5% a year is barely going to keep track with the cost of living changes and CPI."
Dr Chris Riedy, Director of Institute for Sustainable Futures at University of Technology, Sydney - The Conversation
"Julia Gillard refuses to give number of people who will be worse off under her carbon tax."
Kelly O'Dwyer Lib MP - Twitter
"The assistance will go a long way to calm concerns on the Labor backbench, especially from those in mining and manufacturing seats where Abbott has been campaigning the hardest.
While independent Tony Windsor is set to pass the laws, he disagreed with heavy transport moving to a new tax regime in 2014.
What is not known is just how the plan will shift public opinion.
Gillard has given herself a good shot at swaying voters, but Abbott is likely to seize on some of the guess work in the plan to show Labor remains a risk to jobs and hip-pockets."
Paul Osborne - Herald Sun
"It’s broadly consistent philosophically with what I have been arguing for 20 years. I support the principles involved but there are some problems in detail.
The big question you have to hold up to assess this program is: is there any way of knowing now what firms might expect the carbon price to be in 2020 or 2030? The answer is no, there’s nothing that drives a futures price yet.
That is a real problem because that is where the technological innovation will come from. [Companies] have to have some way of knowing what price will be expected at any point in time. Tying down the long term expectations hasn’t been done. That could still happen once they put in place the carbon trading market but they have to do that in a particular way.
Warwick McKibbon, ANU - The Conversation
I will make sure i burn an extra tire just for her.
giving more money to the government does not make the environment better. lol
Carbon Zombies are relentless and damn near impossible to destroy.
And further subjugating private business to the whim of government.
Poltical Commentator Laurie Oakes:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?videoid=DB17A87D-69E7-455D-AF7A-E25D10FECEF7&mediaid
‘People just don’t trust Julia Gillard’
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