Former Czech Leader Charged for Calling Islam an Enemy

inn ^ | 7/11/11 | Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

[Moltke]

There is NOTHING in the article to support “may face criminal charges.”

Where? On what grounds? The article doesn’t say. Worthless.

An earlier post on the same topic said that he was “being sued” for his statements, also without any further details. (I might have read about it on another forum I frequent, but the lack of facts remains.) Well, anyone can try to sue someone else for whatever. Doesn’t mean it’ll go anywhere.

Need more (well, any!) facts.

[Moltke]

Anyone notice that the assertion that he would face charges in the headline became ‘may face charges’ in the first sentence?

Yes. See my comment at #21, which I posted before reading your's. (BTW, the "charged" in the headline does not IMO neccessarily imply any official charges. It could just as well be the usual whiny "charges" from one of those pesky muslim interest groups. I suspect the latter.)

[Nachum]

Charged? Sued would be closer to the truth it seems-

Now in Prague, would sued be thought of as a ‘Criminal Complaint’?

Former Czech PM sued over statements on Islam

http://praguemonitor.com/2011/07/08/former-czech-pm-sued-over-statements-islam

Former Czech PM Milos Zeman sued over statements on Islam

http://1389blog.com/2011/07/10/former-czech-pm-milos-zeman-sued-over-statements-on-islam/

More of this speech:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/there-are-only-muslims-and-communists.html

[mrmeyer]

Some factual history....



SS Reichsfuehrer Heinrich Himmler, second from left, inspects the reconnaissance battalion of the Bosnian Muslim Handzar SS Division with Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig, the commander of the division, and adjutant Gotz Berens von Rautenfeld in Neuhammer, Germany on November 21, 1943.

SS Reichsfuehrer Heinrich Himmler was instrumental in the formation of the Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division “Handzar” or “Handschar” during World War II. In 1944, a second Bosnian Muslim SS Division was formed, “Kama”. Himmler, “the architect of genocide”, and “the architect of the Holocaust”, was determined to create an all-Muslim Nazi SS division. Although nominally a “Croatian” or “Croat” formation, Himmler always wanted and envisioned a Muslim division made up of Bosnian Muslims, or “Bosniaks”. The division was even referred to as an “Ustasha” division. But, in fact, Himmler always intended the Handzar Division to be a Bosnian Muslim SS Division under German and Bosnian Muslim military and political control.

In a letter to SS Gruppenfuehrer Artur Phleps, Himmler wrote:

“I am sticking to my intention of forming SS Bosniak Division of Moslems, who for the most part are not fighting on our side today, but are standing aside or even fighting against us. As Bosniaks, they would surely be loyal soldiers on our side.
I have notified the Foreign Office personally.
Heil Hitler!
[signed] H. Himmler”

http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/archives/1205

[x]

So is Germany still our enemy?

Not to mention all the other countries that provided Waffen-SS units?

Maybe they are, but can we get a little clarity?

[jimfree]

They are Borg. You will be assimilated!

[Moltke]

You provide three links which are pretty much of the same content and reference each other in some circular form (same as the article you posted initially) and provide not one iota more information as to the essential who, why, where, when, what for is charging or sueing.

FACTS! Let's have some, please.

(No matter that I agree 100% with Zeman's statements as such, but without any corroborating evidence as to the alleged charges/suit your post of that article is, shall we say, questionable?)

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

The Muzzies love that because it helps further ther agenda even more Appeasement is the best friend of evil. Look at England, already they have Sharia courts, and you just know the liberals here are jealous as hell over that. They see that as progressive.

[Moltke]

In the context of this thread I'll interpret your post as stating that the muzzies are just another bunch of Nazis. Would that be correct? No argument there.

But while the Nazis instrumentalized some muslims (and Ukranians, Bulgarians, etc.) in their war effort (just so much more Kanonenfutter), when the primary goal of subduing the Slav Untermenschen had been achieved, doubt not that the muslims would have been next up as Unter-Untermenschen.

The idea that the Nazis had or would have embraced islam, as an argumentum e contrario, is ludicrous. Just to clarify.

[Nachum]

That was what was reported by two different sources out of Vienna. Google and other search engines revealed little else at this moment.

If you want more complete information, I hereby task you with doing the research. :)

[Moltke]

I respectfully decline the task and leave that honor to the original poster, as seems befitting.

Seriously, you might as well have the mods pull the thread until some facts are on the table (and then let's have a *real* go at it!). I'm aware you are a heavyweight poster here and this particular article (or non-article as it were) does not measure up to the usual quality.

/exit

[little jeremiah]

Very interseting. I think some Europeans are encouraged by Geert Wilders’ courage. And now he’s been acquitted.

[BobL]

“Former Czech Prime Milos Zeman may face criminal charges for calling Islam an ”anti-civilization” enemy whose type of thinking he compared with the Nazis.”

Hell, half the people I work with should get put away, if it only takes them calling me a “Nazi”.

[BobL]

“and the Koran’s call for the killing of Christians is NOT a hate crime?”

No, but stating what you just wrote, in this context, most certainly is. I sure hope you’re not on your home computer.

LOL...for now.

[G Larry]

I am and I don’t care.
I’ll simply quote those who’ve espoused that reading.

[BobL]

Obviously...let’s hope that we can keep our freedom a bit longer.

[G Larry]

The next President can breeze to victory simply by providing a timetable by which they will overturn everything Obama has done.

[LyinLibs]

When Omoslem loses in 2012, he’ll conceal explosives in his a**l cavity and attempt to detonate himself at the Republican’s inauguration.

[Impy]

This guy has balls for a socialist. The law is on his side not that matters to the thought police.

Czech Constitution: Article 3

An integral component of the constitutional system of the Czech Republic is the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms.

Article 4

The fundamental rights and freedoms shall be protected by the judiciary power.

Aforementioned charter:

Article 17

(1) The freedom of expression and the right to information are guaranteed.

(2) Everyone has the right to express his views in speech, in writing, in the press, in pictures, or in any other form, as well as freely to seek, receive, and disseminate ideas and information irrespective of the frontiers of the state.

(3) Censorship is not permitted.

[GOPsterinMA]

Even this Commie putz sees the truth about the Koranimals.