Skip to comments.Post-9/11, Sikhs say they are mistaken targets
Posted on 07/12/2011 9:38:23 AM PDT by bgill
Kamaljit Atwal's neighborhood seems like an unlikely place for a hate crime. His street in this Sacramento suburb seems a model of diversity.
Atwal and his family are one of two Sikh families on the block from India. On Atwal's street alone, there's a Vietnamese family, a Mexican family, a black woman and a white man.
But in March, Atwal's 78-year-old father Gurmej Atwal and his 67-year-old friend Surinder Singh were shot and killed while taking an afternoon stroll in the neighborhood.
Atwal and his fellow Sikhs in the area wonder if the same ugliness that has brought violence to other Sikhs is the reason why.
The men had long beards and were wearing turbans, both traditional symbols of their religion. Police are investigating whether their killing was a hate crime.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
“How about the cops see if they were involved in something shady rather than rubber stamping it?”
Yeah, elderly men are notorious crime kingpins.
Why would the Sikhs believe they are immune from murder and who will be shocked to find the killer/s are Black?
Turban over the ears
calm your fears
(how to tell a ROPer from a Sikh.)
This article is unadulterated leftist horse snot and there is nothing reasonable about that.
Of course the Media Mafia will spin this as a “Hate Crime against the ROPers”.
And they won;t even have the guts to explain what a Sikh is or even mention any of their history and the general public will be mislead to believe that Sikhs are some sorta sect of the ROPers.
Count on this happening.
I have met a number of Sikhs over the years, and found the majority to be very decent people. They do have a genuine fear of being mistaken for Muslims due to the beard and turban.
Christians and Jews aren’t the ONLY people the Muslims have persecuted. They have also persecuterd Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, and a whole lot of other smaller religious sects, some of them most of us have never even heard of.
MUSLIMS, not Sikhs are our enemies and the enemies of our culture.
Isn’t murder, by definition, a hate crime?
The media trying to spin up something that isn’t there.
In the meantime, more brutally racist mob attacks on Sunday are ignored by the MSM including the worms at “yahoo” news.
Yes, Sikhs are some of the best allies we could ever hope to have against the ROPers.
Certainly it is possible. A Sikh was murdered in the Sacramento area shortly after 9/11, in what was definitely a hate crime.
However, the article makes it seem like a certainty. They were shot in an area where it could have been a gang initiation shooting. Or it could have been mistaken identity. Two months later, another Sikh, one who was involved in drug dealing, was murdered in the Elk Grove area.
If it were a hate crime, it is a little strange that it was an isolated incident. I would think it would be part of a spree.
Some of. But not quite at the top of the list.
Try this for size:
The Battle of Saragarhi, one of history's most famous last stands, was fought during the Tirah Campaign on 12 September 1897 between twenty-one Sikhs of the 4th Battalion (then 36th Sikhs) of the Sikh Regiment of British India, defending an army post, and 10,000 Afghan and Orakzai tribesmen. The battle occurred in the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, now part of Pakistan, which then formed part of British India. The contingent of the twenty-one Sikhs from the 36th Sikhs was led by Havildar Ishar Singh. They all chose to fight to the death. Sikh military personnel and Sikh civilians commemorate the battle every year on 12 September, as Saragarhi Day.
Date: September 12, 1897
Location: Tirah, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (then called North-West Frontier Province), British India (modern day Pakistan)
Result: Afghan Pashtun tactical victory, British-Indian strategic victory.
“The British, as well as the Indians, are proud of the 36th Sikh Regiments. It is no exaggeration to record that the armies which possess the valiant Sikhs cannot face defeat in war.”
- Parliament, United Kingdom.
“You are never disappointed when you are with the Sikhs. Those 21 soldiers all fought to the death. That bravery should be within all of us. Those soldiers were lauded in Britain and their pride went throughout the Indian Army. Inside every Sikh should be this pride and courage. The important thing is that you must not get too big-headed it is important to be humble in victory and to pay respect to the other side.”
- Field Marshal William Joseph Slim, 1st Viscount.
Saragarhi and Thermopylae
The battle has frequently been compared to the Battle of Thermopylae, where a small Greek force faced a large Persian army of Xerxes (480 BC).
The comparison is made because of the overwhelming odds faced by a tiny defending force in each case, and the defenders’ brave stand to their deaths, as well as the extremely disproportionate number of fatalities caused to the attacking force.
It is important to note that during the Battle of Saragarhi, the British did not manage to get a relief unit there until after the 21 had fought to their deaths. At Thermopylae, the 300 Spartans and their allies also stayed after their lines had been outflanked, to fight to their deaths.
Thanks for that link and story. The Sikhs are indeed brave and certainly no friends of Islam.
I think each male Sikh takes the name “Singh” which means “Lion”. They certainly deserve that name.
The 36th Sikhs at Saragarhi were every bit the soldiers and with every bit the valor as that of the French at Camerone, the Texians at the Alamo mission, the Marines at Wake Island or the Finns at Kolla's *Killer Hill.* Aside from the determination of all of those at those places to fight to the last man or nearly so without surrender, they also have in common the fact that those who died in those places did so in very fine company. There is a special place in Valhalla for such men.
The 36th Sikhs at Saragarhi were every bit the soldiers and with every bit the valor as the French at Camerone, the Texians at the Alamo mission, yhe British SAS at Mirbat, the 9th company of the 345th Independent Guards Airborne Regiment at Hill 3234, the Marines at Wake Island or the Finns at Kolla's *Killer Hill.*
Aside from the determination of all of those at those places to fight to the last man or nearly so without surrender, they also have in common the fact that those who died in those places did so in very fine company. There is a special place in Valhalla for such men.
You familiar with Subedar Joginder Sahnan, essentially the Sikh equivalent to Audie Murphie?
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