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To: jh4freedom
A raised Seal doesn’t show up in a photocopy or a scan of a pdf. file.

Correct. The fabricated pdf obama BC is not a valid legal document and no court would recognize it. Let's move on.

However the short form COLB has a raised Seal.

A foreign-born child could easily receive a Hawaiian COLB. Obama was born in Kenya and he received one.

The state Registrar would not have put his athentification stamp on a document that didn’t have a raised Seal and the Hawaii Directors of Health, across two different administrations would not have issued statesments of authentification for a document that didn’t conform to state standards.

Without a raised seal, the state Registrar wouldn't have to sign it. It could be copied form another BC and "pasted" onto obama's. Which is exactly what happen.

If there were legitimate questions about the authenticity of the birth certificate, I’m sure a grand jury investigation would have been convened by now.

I've already gone over this several times with you now. Nobody wants to responsible for creating a constitutional crisis during the obama depression.

You’re going to need to prove it to a Court of Law or a Committee of Congress. In the four years since Zero announced that he was running, no one has been able to convince a court or a committee of Congress of your opinion.

It's not my opinion. It is a fact that obama was born in Kenya. Unless you want to call obama's grandmother a liar.

269 posted on 07/15/2011 1:18:14 PM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: ILS21R

“I’ve already gone over this several times with you now. Nobody wants to responsible for creating a constitutional crisis during the obama depression.”

Then I guess we must be discussing it just for the fun of the intellectual exercise?

“It’s not my opinion. It is a fact that obama was born in Kenya. Unless you want to call obama’s grandmother a liar.”

I call Obama’s grandmother a liar.

The state of Hawaii says that Barack Hussein Obama II was born at 7:24 p.m. on Friday, August 4, 1961 at Kapi’olani Gynecological and Maternity Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. The attending physician was Dr. David A. Sinclair.
Barack Hussein Obama Senior and Stanely Ann Dunham Obama signed the birth certificate on August 7, 1961 and Dr. Sinclair signed it and registered the birth with the state of Hawaii on August 8, 1961. Two contemporaneous birth announcements appeared in the Vital Statistics section of the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper on August 13, 1961 and in the Honolulu Star-Bulliten newspaper on August 14, 1961.
I’ll go with a state of the union over Kenyan granny.

Here’s a link to a youtube video of the former state Health Department director for the state of Hawaii verifying the authenticity of the Obama birth records:
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/politics/2011/04/26/ac.tuchman.fukino.intv.cnn.html

I apologize in advance for the commercial you have to watch before you can see and hear Dr. Fukino in her own words.


270 posted on 07/15/2011 1:46:08 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: ILS21R
I examined the PDF, and saw near the bottom, odd patterns, that I believe are the raised seal. This was done the day they created this piece of garbage in April 2011.

I believe they did put the seal on it. It's very hard to see because of the green security pattern, but its there.

So far, the Twin Boxes is the most obvious issue that has not been satisfactorily explained in my mind. They are not natural. They are the smoking gun. They defy all logic unless the document is a copy and paste forgery.

271 posted on 07/15/2011 1:50:31 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ILS21R
It is a fact that obama was born in Kenya. Unless you want to call obama's grandmother a liar.

You're aware that she corrected herself right away, aren't you? So which time was she lying, in your opinion?

272 posted on 07/15/2011 2:22:29 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: ILS21R
It's not my opinion. It is a fact that obama was born in Kenya.

Not it is not. There is not a shred of evidence to suggest Obama was born in Kenya.

Unless you want to call obama's grandmother a liar.

She never said he was born in Kenya. It is clear from the full transcript of her call with "Bishop" McRea that she never intended to state or even imply that he was born in Kenya.

277 posted on 07/15/2011 2:46:56 PM PDT by curiosity
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