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Fast And Furious Scandal: A Watergate For Obama?
IBD Editorial ^ | July 13, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 07/13/2011 4:21:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Finished cocaine is bought by Mexies for $3,000 per key, while unprocessed BASE is just $1,000. How might Mexies TRIPLE their profits with about the same risk? A bit like the oil industry; by moving upstream and also owning the mechanism for processing cocaine base in central America.

Docs related to F&F and Castaway show an interesting confluence of Mexy narco financial interests with Obama political interests:

Mexicans wanted a Honduran operating environment permitting for their own cocaine processing there, further south to the source of the product. This would permit Mexicans to bypass middlemen, collecting the profits these others had enjoyed to that point.

Meanwhile, via arms sales to these dangerous Mexican criminals, Obama would win its own new friends in Central America. As a topper, in the process he would also end up disallowing easy gun sales to law-abiding Americans —call it the Chicago-ization of the whole USA.

Note that more and more docs uncovered refer to “DEA, ATF **AND OTHER AGENCIES” —so this imbroglio clearly had SECRET FOREIGN POLICY OBJECTIVES.

—>THIS IS IRAN-CONTRA ALL OVER AGAIN<—


101 posted on 07/14/2011 2:00:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ctdonath2

link to the 2-year-old video, for backup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwydueVjKcw


102 posted on 07/14/2011 2:04:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

No Watergate here. There is no crusading newspapermen here. No TV reporter shining light into dark corners. Just sockpuppets who are too busy cheering on King Obama.


103 posted on 07/14/2011 2:39:55 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Kaslin

Unless we can get a special prosecutor with integrity on the case, nothing will come of it.


104 posted on 07/14/2011 3:34:56 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I agree completely!


105 posted on 07/14/2011 4:42:09 PM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: samtheman

“There is no famine or actual starvation nor is there likely to be.”

—New York Times, Nov. 15, 1931, page 1

“Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda.”
—New York Times, August 23, 1933

“Enemies and foreign critics can say what they please. Weaklings and despondents at home may groan under the burden, but the youth and strength of the Russian people is essentially at one with the Kremlin’s program, believes it worthwhile and supports it, however hard be the sledding.”

—New York Times, December 9, 1932, page 6

“You can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs.”

—New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 18

“There is no actual starvation or deaths from starvation but there is widespread mortality from diseases due to malnutrition.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/791vwuaz.asp

More from the same article. Hope it’s okay to post this much.

This makes me sick to my stomach.What an evil man. Just like most of our MSM now.
What can we do about the MSM? It’s easy to say, now we have the internet, but let’s be honest, how many people sit around reading FR like we do? Until there is a true, honest alternate but mainstream media outlet we will not be able to get the truth out. We are at their mercy somewhat, waiting and hoping that it finally gets picked up, and usually the important information doesn’t. There are some very conservative multimillionare’s/billionaires out there -I wish one of them would start up a conservative news network.


106 posted on 07/14/2011 6:15:16 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Spktyr; Forward the Light Brigade

That is a really good summary. I’m going to keep it to give to friends who ask.

I also have heard a rumor that some of the $10,000,000 (2009) stimulus money that was allocated to F&F was actually used to help finance these guns. I don’t know if that is verified but I know I read someone speculating about that on FR.
For those following this, MestaMachine is keeping a pint list for postings on Fast and Furious/Gunrunner.


107 posted on 07/14/2011 6:26:50 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

Apparently, yes, the $10M was in the Stimulus and was in fact used at least in part to fund F&F. However, that was actually listed as being earmarked for Gunrunner, the original (legitimate) parent program and nobody’s got the ATF expenditure numbers on that just yet. Also, it confuses the issue between Gunrunner and F&F yet again, which is why I left that out.


108 posted on 07/14/2011 10:05:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mountainlion

Watergate was a spy operation similar to ones that Kennedy carried out on Steel unions. These actions by Presidents only became illegal the moment the media said so.

Iran-Contra was a brilliant end-run about a communistic Congress, to weaken multiple foreign enemies and to strengthen the Contras. It was a legitimate use of power by a President: as legitimate as other actions of military aid. Congress wouldn’t provide funding for this aid so Reagan provided his own.

Gun-Runner OTOH involved sending Guns to a foreign country in the hope of destabilizing a FRIENDLY power (Mexico) and of providing a false flag for action against the US people and Constitution.


109 posted on 07/15/2011 4:38:24 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: agere_contra
Didn't JFK send arms to Cuba? My memory is not so good anymore. Our government supplied arms and materials to those freedom fighters all over the world. It now seems that those that would overthrow this government are being supplied.
110 posted on 07/15/2011 7:04:14 AM PDT by mountainlion (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.)
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To: EyeGuy

You’re right. As the saying goes: “A democracy gets the gov’t it deserves” and we have a selfish, narcissistic population.


111 posted on 07/15/2011 6:20:06 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: TigersEye

Good Point. Issa needs to make H0lder personally go to Mexico to not return until he has recovered every one.


112 posted on 07/18/2011 4:42:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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