Posted on 07/14/2011 12:04:23 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
Translation. He has a RINO/RAT coalition to pass it if needed.
The McConnell plan isn’t the best but it will work and even with that Obama gets the short end of the stick because he will HAVE to come up with cuts.
“I think it’s worth keeping on the table,” Boehner said”
I think it’s worth sacking YOU, as Speaker and putting a REAL American in that seat, YOU pissed up!
I hadn’t looked at it that way. I hope that’s the strategy—and that the bad cop gets the last word.
My problem with McConnell's plan is it gives cover to any Republicans who are getting wobbly in the knees.
you may be right.
You see then that there is sort of Zero chance he will “accept” this proposal, right?
(If I were him, I would accept it, and then hope that the House kills it.....why can’t he make that same calculation?)
It proves the repub’s are not serious. Why are they negotiating with the obama, don’t spending bills originate in the house. Pass the bill send it to the senate and go on vacation. Let Ried piss and moan and crap his pants.
It proves the repub’s are not serious. Why are they negotiating with the obama, don’t spending bills originate in the house. Pass the bill send it to the senate and go on vacation. Let Ried piss and moan and crap his pants.
I think if the McConnell plan passed, O’Bozo would sign it. The reason I saw they should leave it on the table is, it stays as a threat to Obama (he’d sign it because he would have to, not because he would want to). Additionally, I am not sure will ever get anything out of Obama anyway. So the McConnell plan, where we force him to at least name SOME cuts, would at least be a step in the right direction. Then, come January 21, 2013, we have a GOP President, House, and Senate, and we repeal Obamacare, reform entitlements, fire the bureaucrats, and drastically reduce discretionary spending.
Why not give him the authority to make the laws by himself?
Why not just go ahead and make him ruler for life?
Why not give him the authority to abolish Congress?
My question would be, why give the sob anything? I despise him ean every son of a bitch that voted for him.
Exactly....that house will never pass it...you have the majority because of the freshman congressmen/women...they are all standing tough against it...rightly so...
I think if the McConnell plan passed”
Ok, no disagreement...but what about the chaos that would ensue the moment that Obama announces that he has accepted the McConnell plan, then McConnell/Reid/Pelosi start whipping votes to make it pass.
Then, you have the Tea Party at war against the GOP and the Dems. Whether it passes at that point (it might well fail) becomes sort of immaterial, because at that point, Obama has won. He has divided the GOP against itself, he, again, looks like the adult because he offered a compromise put forth by the Senate Minority Leader, only to have it killed by the Tea Party.
So...if that happens, he STILL doesn’t have to do anything, he has divided the GOP, his base is satisfied, and he is re-elected. AND the GOP loses the House, because teh Tea Party will punish the GOP mightily.
That’s sort of the danger I see in leaving this on the table. Though I agree that Obama doesn’t want it to pass....but he could bluff and that would be like setting off a nuke in the GOP caucus.
Am I wrong here? What am I missing?
As I understand McConnell's proposal, Obama's cuts would be approved or rejected in the House on a simple majority basis through the appropriations process. Only a reversal of the debt ceiling increase would require a 2/3rds majority.
I think Obama and Reid want no deal as it pleases the liberal base and will end up in a government shut down Obama and the Democrats will spin as the Republican’s fault. Obama has already said granny won’t get her check and meals for kids will stop. We on the right will get killed by public opinion as the public drinks the cool aide of mass media and Jay Leno jokes. Better to hang the out of control spending and inflation around Obama’s neck to win big in 11/2012.
How real will the cuts be? Obama gets an immediate increase in the debt ceiling and propose cuts that would take place over time. The last time we tried this, tens of billions turned into a few hundred million after Boehner signed off on it.
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