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To: george76
'Stephen Fotopulos, executive director of the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, said Cain's comments "demonstrate a profound misunderstanding of the U.S. Constitution."'

My @$$!!!! Hermain Cain is showing the same common sense as our founding fathers - who knew the difference between strictly a religion and a poltical-sovereign-religion.

I wonder if Fotopoulos can tell us what happened to the "Church of England" in the 13 colonies after American independence?

You see, the "Church of England" included an oath of political allegiance to the King in their "religion" and their clergy were not only required to take that oath, but also required to lead the congregation in the same oath at all church services.

Our founding fathers would have none of that and the Church of England congregations that would not change their religion to reflect republican values (becoming the Episcopal Church) were forced to flee the country.

The Left is again showing their ignorancy or dishonesty.

17 posted on 07/17/2011 6:24:40 PM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
the "Church of England" included an oath of political allegiance to the King in their "religion" and their clergy were not only required to take that oath, but also required to lead the congregation in the same oath at all church services.

Our founding fathers would have none of that and the Church of England congregations that would not change their religion to reflect republican values (becoming the Episcopal Church) were forced to flee the country.


I agree. China thinks the same about the Catholic church. They see the Vatican as a nation state, and so adherants to Catholicism have mixed allegiences. Some might disagree, but it's not a point they can dismiss out of hand.

But over time, Catholics have shown the way they live their lives to be generally concordant with America, and the mixed allegience has not generally mattered. Certainly it's not like Islam, which is 180 degrees opposed to America.

But from time to time it does matter. For example the Vatican has an open borders policy for the US, because most Mexicans are Catholic, they see more Mexicans coming to the US as good for their power.

Catholics on FR, in general, appear to oppose this policy. Which is great! But certainly the bulk of the Catholic infrastructure in the US supports it. Shouldn't one ask why we ignore that?
26 posted on 07/17/2011 6:36:45 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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