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'Ground Zero Mosque' Clears Legal Hurdle to Build
ABC News ^ | July 18, 2011

Posted on 07/18/2011 10:42:59 PM PDT by NoRedTape

The backers of the controversial “Ground Zero Mosque” have won a court fight clearing the way for them to build the mosque and community center complex two blocks from the site of the 9/11 terror attack.

In a decision on Friday that was made public today, New York State Supreme Justice Paul Feinman dismissed a lawsuit by former firefighter Timothy Brown who argued that New York City was wrong to allow the destruction of a 150-year-old building to make way for the Islamic center.

The ex-firefighter who was among those who responded to the terror attack on the World Trade Center said the old building had been struck by debris during the collapse of the twin towers and was a “living representative of the heroic structures that commemorate the events of that day.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aoc; aspeninstitute; groundzeromosque; gzmosque; imamrauf; mosque; newyork; paulfeinman; rauf; socialistislam
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To: getarope

Yeah..let’s see the unions turn out for this like the do when their own $$$ interests are at stake.


61 posted on 07/19/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now that Weiner's gone . .time to get wid of Fwank)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Look...any impeachment would be in the courts long after Obamas term is up. It’s more advanageous to spend time and money on the election itself and those who will be called along side of the winner. That’s moving forward.

I suspect Allen West is doing exactly as he intends to do and where he wants to be presently. He’s a smart guy and is not going to jump onto just any bandwagon...rather he will determine what the climate is much like he would in combat he’ll scan the territory...he’s in to win not just play politics.... and that takes time.

Attorney’s will pick their fights...what might seem clearly something we think should be gone after might not be what can bring BO down. Stop and think of Capone and the likes who were brought down for tax evasion...not murder or the thuggary they committed of which time and again they got off.

Also...It doesn’t matter what West’s skin color is....so why bring it up? He’s where he is today because of who he is and what he stands for...and people are drwan to him for the conservative stands he takes.


62 posted on 07/19/2011 8:36:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: All
America says No to Ground Zero Mosque!


63 posted on 07/19/2011 9:22:30 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: RexFamilia

“...Hope the unions will do their part!..”

They won’t.

They’re democrat liberal assholes, and will queue up and do whatever their democrat apparatchnik handlers tell them to do.

And the Muzzies will pay the democrat handlers, and FuBO will order his flunkies to ensure that it gets built.

For the record, I hop YOU are correct, and I am wrong. But I ain’t seein’ it, Rex.


64 posted on 07/19/2011 9:35:36 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NoRedTape
And still most of the posters on this thread have missed the underlying cause of this conflict over the mosque and Islam in general in the US: immigration, immigration, immigration.

Has one politician on the national scene called for the ending of Muslim immigration into this country (let alone expulsion)? Not that I'm aware of.

And there won't be any either. Because today's Conservatives are just as eager to prove their "diversity" bona fides as much as any on the left. Call them a "racist" or a "bigot" and they'll stammer "but, but I respect the Great and Holy Dr. King" and "all I'm saying is" and they'll turn instantly into an apologizing shrinking violet.

Witness Rand Paul back during his campaign. Text book example. The "diversity" "multi-culti" "we're all the same" , "discrimination for any reason is wrong" ideology is almost as firmly entrenched among those who call themselves conservatives as it is on the left.

I've seen multiple times myself right here on this forum.

65 posted on 07/19/2011 9:37:23 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Men have been emasculated by a 60 year process instigated by cultural marxists—starting in force with Alfred Kinsey, Freud, and Hugh Hefner and the Beats. It was a movement to intentionally destroy the patriarchy and, with it, the family, which destroys the future generation.

Marxists knew that it was the white Christian man which made America the greatest place on earth and the most independent—with an individualist/responsible slant not easy to enslave. Men exactly like Col West used to be more the norm in America. Women made it possible by playing their role of raising and nurturing children, so the men were able to accomplish things outside the home, and the children would grow up with sound role models and be emotionally healthy. Their perception of reality was not created by TV—it was experienced by doing.

Now ideas are being put into the heads of children by strangers—and most of them are Marxists that use highly paid psychologists in their programming to market their way of thinking. Every show is riddled with ideology—theirs. The Marxist ideology becomes the worldview of children—OR they are useful idiots—those that really don’t understand anything and are too stupid to oppose the Marxist mission ( the term “useful” idiots comes from this—cognitive dissonance injected into curricula and TV destroys the ability to reason and use logic).

The ideology of Marcuse becomes the worldview of ALL the children (exposed to public education and television)—so that they will just go along with whatever “feels” cool and “feels” good to them and want to look and think like the masses (group think). They will not have any moral compass because they are moral relativists and are ignorant of everything true about Christianity. Marxists warp the ideas of Christianity and make it demonic.

Starting with cultural Marxists ‘Political Correctness’—it made it possible to force” up is down” on children with parents permission. Parent’s were deceived—because their ideas “sound” good, but their intent is to destroy the “fixed beliefs” and morality of children. (BK Eakman).

Good decent people could be made to look like bigots and hateful (Archie Bunker—perception of Christians and fathers) to start destroying the Christian worldview which was the most successful at creating a free society.

McCarthy was a WWII hero—and was fighting the good fight for he knew because of all the KGB defectors in the 40’s that the US’s institutions were infiltrated in powerful positions (to influence policies and perceptions). He was literally destroyed by the media and lies. (Perception forced on the masses by the Marxists). (Blacklisted by History) Tailgunner Joe had flaws—yes—all men do. But he had a good heart and he was smart and onto the intentions of the Communists. He was manly, not feminized at all.

Even those with dysfunctional families would have some good role models (prior to the late 60’s TV) in their towns and with a media which promoted “Horatio Algers” ideas, it was easy to create “Christian” people—those who do try to treat everyone with dignity and worth and not use them as means, as all Marxists/hedonists/pagans/progressives/occultists/socialists do.

The 30’s was the takeover of public schools.....history was rewritten and twisted and they quit memorizing things like the Declaration of Independence etc. Social studies —to change how one “feels” about other cultures —was put into the schools to control emotions. Hard subjects were eased out. All subjects were filtered by the biased Marxist mind (postmodernism). Now, of course, you have Queer studies, woman studies—all the blatant Marxist ideology—they don’t need to hide it and Ayers anymore with the stupidity of the masses— all a method to divide and create hatred in all relationships (to destroy the family and get children away from their biological parents so they can be easily indoctrinated and made into a useful idiot.

Real men (Christians) started to be really vilified (by Marxists) to destroy the image of a strong Christian male. Patton (Target Patton) was reviled—he was a profound Christian with firm principles of right and wrong. He vomited when he saw the realities of the Atheist Russians—hated them more than Germans because he did see some remnants of Christianity in the worldview of some German solders that could be reinvigorated. Patton wanted to destroy Russia and was appalled at the countries we were handing over to them so they could slaughter millions of people. He knew how evil and vile communist ideology was. He was disgusted with leadership of the allies (and he was much more popular than them) and he was going to report directly to the American people—but was killed. (He had to be destroyed because he was too popular with the masses—might influence their perception because Americans still in their gut could recognize the good and Truth.) No—the Big Lies were allowed to flow and placate Americans who were being manipulated by Marxism.

Patton’s image had to be demeaned and destroyed (slapping) by the media because he knew the Truth and the real reality of the world. Marxists had to destroy America’s concept of strong, white GOOD Christian men because they kept America free and strong and on tract. All because of their brashness, their bravado, their genius, their risks they took for the love of their family and God, their sacrifice of self for something greater—the history of the best, happiest, most successful and beautiful, creative culture ever.

Yes, All about the family—that basic building block of strong civilizations. Marxism hates the family and what your see with their dialectic and no fault divorce laws and promiscuous/dysfunction promotion 24/7 and destruction of morality—is to destroy all human relationships to create chaos and need for government intervention.

Then, they can control how you think and what you think (like they do now) only THEN they will control everything you are “allowed” to do and own.

My point: learn to see their propaganda and lies NOW and live in reality and save the minds and freedom of your children and grandchildren. Their future depends on it—NOW! Teach them Judeo/Christian morality—orthodox kind—not the demonic “new age feminized marxist” stuff which is demonic.

A society with no morality will self destruct or with the atheist/marxist morality of moral relativism—will become slaves to both their emotions, materialism, and government.


66 posted on 07/19/2011 10:00:35 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Pssst! You don’t know what you’re talking about.Pass it on.
Just WHAT money is talking, and to whom, and on whose behalf?
The “viability” of the Ground Zero Mosque, the way it was
presented 1-2 years ago now, ALWAYS depended and was tied to
the viability of “President” Barack Obama, who, you might have noticed, is, uh, a bit “controversial”.Had Obama played ANY of his cards right, there might now be a little
more ‘good feeling’ about him and his global intentions, and a lot less suspicion and discomfort.When and as he falls,so do these grandiose Islamic plans for becoming political players on the American Scene.
Much has been discovered about ALL the people promoting
the Mosque, details of which I won’t go into here, but my own Bergen Record, 20 mi. away from NYC, dutifully reported exactly what the New York Times chose to ignore.
With Imam Rauf and his associates, it was always “all or nothing”, a massive multi-storied Recruitment Center masquerading as a Community Center of Outreach and “healing”, education, and conciliation. These people wouldn’t have been content with anything less, like a simple storefront 8 blocks away, and they still aren’t.
A modest outpost wouldn’t satisfy their requirements for this symbolic Victory Mosque. This is still a poker game, and its going on world-wide-—America is the LAST place on earth these people will ever be successful.


67 posted on 07/19/2011 10:16:11 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: savagesusie

Post of the year. Well said.


68 posted on 07/19/2011 10:35:54 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: savagesusie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdov0M2Lyo


69 posted on 07/19/2011 11:00:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: supremedoctrine

I really hope you are right, but I am a little nervous with the muslim in chief still in office and homosexualizing the military and schools.

What type of minds will be left inside America to reinvigorate the ideas of freedom and selflessness, where someone is even willing to fight for a greater good and the future (their children). The narcissism and materialism and self-worship will destroy the nation and freedom.

Worldview determines everything—virtue— and the Marxists/fascists are creating the perceptions and controlling the minds of too many of our children and destroying their ability to be virtuous—understand good and evil, right and wrong, because of the dysfunctional families government has created and their indoctrination in the public schools and TV.

Great evil is afoot and if I didn’t believe in God, I would be very, very frightened.


70 posted on 07/19/2011 11:09:31 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I love everything there is about this guy. He is as perfect as man can be.


71 posted on 07/19/2011 1:08:52 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie

I know but I fear I may turn into a West bot if I am not careful :)


72 posted on 07/19/2011 1:19:34 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Some “bots” are much better than other “bots”. All people can make mistakes...just expect them, because they aren’t God, even if they seem to be.


73 posted on 07/19/2011 1:47:51 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: NoRedTape

noooooo


74 posted on 07/19/2011 2:29:13 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: jonrick46

If they build that damned thing, you can count on a nonstop stream of bums in dirty nightshirts coming out one door, going out and looping around the WTC, and then returning in the other door to offer up prayers and ululations to al-lah for giving them the great victory over the white infidel devil. I say this... let it be built and I will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER set foot in New York City while it stands, nor will I ever willingly send money there. And next time? No sympathy.


75 posted on 07/19/2011 2:33:24 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Best Idea I heard was to go past daily and sprinkle bac-os around it so the pigeons would eat it and poop it on the muxk. Also to put a shoe repair place across the street with a huge boot on display, sole facing outward toward the musc.


76 posted on 07/19/2011 2:38:21 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: ichabod1

I like what HiTech RedNeck said in Post #7, “However, there’s nothing keeping other entities from opening up next door — like pork rib BBQ restaurants, all-dog pet stores, Christian booksellers, strip tease joints, and the like.”

Also,ichabod1’s Post #19, “Best Idea I heard was to go past daily and sprinkle bac-os around it so the pigeons would eat it and poop it on the muxk. Also to put a shoe repair place across the street with a huge boot on display, sole facing outward toward the musc.” Note: muxk and musc = mosque.


78 posted on 07/19/2011 4:00:03 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: hattend

The bear.


79 posted on 07/19/2011 4:21:16 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: NoRedTape

It’s not a mosque- it’s a rabat.


80 posted on 07/19/2011 4:56:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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