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Perry has troubled relationship with tea party
Associated Press ^ | 7/19/11 | April Castro

Posted on 07/19/2011 4:39:17 PM PDT by truthfreedom

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To: marstegreg; sam_paine; cripplecreek
I think it’s more than a little sad when Christians judge people this way. The past is the past and you can’t change it (unless you are Obama). It made him who he is. I’d like ti hear him out. He may not be the “perfect” candidate but who really is? The last “perfect” candidate any of us saw turned out to be one big fat lie. I’d rather have someone who loves this country loking out for it..everything else aside.

The problem with your analogy is that Perry's bad policy positions and statements are not in the so distant past and he never walked back those positions or statements in any manner.

We, as Christians, are supposed to forgive, and forget when there is some sort of repentence.

Furthermore, we are told to try the spirits of Men to know who they are of.

Perry has shown any kind of "repentence" on his Open Border stance of Illegal Immigration, he just did a 180 in a symbolic way, while still coming out against AZ1070, which tells any objective/observant observer, he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth and he apparently isn't sincere.

I don't want to end up with another GWB who used the Social Conservatives against fiscal conservatives and those against Illegal Immigration to become President.

His stands against a fence on the border and against AZ1070 should tell any honest, objective, open-minded conservative that he is an Open-Borders Fraud, notwithstanding all of his symbolic rhetoric.
121 posted on 07/20/2011 10:32:26 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; truthfreedom; dirtboy; cripplecreek; KoRn; Allegra; GSWarrior
Trying to make excuses for Governor Perry's bad choices...

Not trying to do that at all.

The point is that every single POLITICIAN has made some kind of decision we can find fault with. And whether or not Perry or Cain or Bachmann deserve anyone's support, the critiques have risen to the level that NOBODY can pass muster anymore.

...let his own record stand and fall on it's own merits.

...and the worst of the worst RINO is better than certain death for the Republic from Obama.

122 posted on 07/20/2011 10:50:18 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SoConPubbie
Trying to ....[post your own opinion]....is just crap.

Sorry.

123 posted on 07/20/2011 10:54:19 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Don’t ping me anymore moron. I never asked to be on a RINO pinglist.


124 posted on 07/20/2011 10:55:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SoConPubbie

Furthermore, we are told to try the spirits of Men to know who they are of.

All I was saying was we should give him a chance. I think ‘Try the spirits of men to know who they are of” implies that we get to know him and not just by what people are saying about him. Otherwise, we are to believe that michelle Bachman is a drug addict and I won’t even mention what was said about Sarah.


125 posted on 07/20/2011 10:58:46 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: KoRn

There was a previous thread that documented Perry working with ACORN on legislation Perry signed.

Yes, THAT freakin’ ACORN!!!

Even had a photo of the ACORNs standing around Perry as he ws signing it!


126 posted on 07/20/2011 10:59:07 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: cripplecreek
LEAVE REPUBLICAN BASHERS ALONE!!!!!


127 posted on 07/20/2011 10:59:47 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Ronald Wilson Reagan himself would not stand a chance with these conservapuristas on this forum.

Ain't it the truth. And a converted dimocrat no less -- the horror!!! Eating our own seems to be a fashionable pastime amongst conservatives but I'm not altogether sure that's a bad thing. Unlike the Dim's coalition of victims who primarily take their cue from the dinomedia, we are more inclined to take our potential candidates to the town square and rip their clothes off for all the world to see. OMG, look at that; he/she has a wart on his/her butt!!! We can't possibly vote for someone with a wart on their but. The shame. Of course, it's not like we would be voting for an illegal alien for president or anything. ;^)

128 posted on 07/20/2011 11:49:53 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

I know! But while we are whipping our boys in the town square, SEIU is off voting for their fuhrer!

What to do!?!?


129 posted on 07/20/2011 11:58:04 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
What to do!?!?

I don't have an answer to that. Without divine guidance, I'm not sure anything we do at this point will make much of a difference. We can pray that God will move across the face of America to reinstill the reverence for Him we once had as a nation in abundance. Your mileage may vary...

130 posted on 07/20/2011 1:00:27 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: McGruff

That’s what the tea party thinks.

If you want to leave Rick Santelli aside (who is after all not a politician), Ron Paul does deserve more credit than any Presidential Candidate for inventing the tea party.

If you’re talking about helping tea party candidates get elected in 2010, that’s when you start talking about Palin.

You might not have been paying attention, but there were a lot of Ron Paul Tea Party events on 12/16/07. Ron Paul himself dumped tea into water on that day. There’s lots and lots of good video, good pictures of those events. Ron Paul raised over $6 Million that day.


131 posted on 07/20/2011 1:13:12 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: af_vet_rr

That is a very nicely formatted selection of “bad things about Perry”.


132 posted on 07/20/2011 1:16:02 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: sam_paine
The point is that every single POLITICIAN has made some kind of decision we can find fault with. And whether or not Perry or Cain or Bachmann deserve anyone's support, the critiques have risen to the level that NOBODY can pass muster anymore.

I hope you're just expressing an opinion and not trying to lecture others here.

I agree with your statement and find the purists occasionally annoying. I can't help but wonder if these are the people who worship their politicians, so they perceive their object of worship as perfect and all others are simply not to be considered.

To me, they all have their good and bad points, just like any human being.

Right now, the only person running for the GOP nomination I absolutely will not vote for is Romney.

Well, I wouldn't vote for Gingrich, Paul or Huntsman either, but there's no chance any of them will get the nomination.

133 posted on 07/20/2011 1:55:15 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra
Exactly that.

To me, they all have their good and bad points, just like any human being.

I'm concerned about self-professed conservatives who would prefer the Perfect Marxist instead of the Imperfect Republican.

134 posted on 07/20/2011 2:07:29 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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