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To: arrogantsob

No evidence? The vehicle exhibited by the government as the one he died in? The missing reports? No autopsy of such an important person? The Soviet assassination hit list? His words telling his family he doesn’t think he will make it home? The plane he was in which was shot down and he miraculously survived? The lies and innuendos about his actions which were repeated by the Allied leaders? The bullets that barely missed him? The deliberate thwarting of Patton’s offensives—so his victories would be less so and kill thousands of more men? All credible historians who said that Patton’s ideas were far superior to Montgomery’s and Ike’s and would have ended the war over a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of men. Right.

Believe your history books—the ones written by the Marxists who also told us McCarthy was wrong (Big Lie—Blacklisted by History) The press told us there was NO Communist infiltration of the press—Hiss was no Communist—Rosenbergs were NOT communists—Yep, no Goebbel distortion and lies to destroy people who thought Communism was (horror) EVIL. No Walter Concrites, no Dan Rathers—we got the “truth” from the government and particularly the press.

Am I condemning our Allied Commanders? No, not really, but I am condemning them for extreme jealousy of genius and stupidity and I wouldn’t put it past them to order the death of someone outspoken and brash as Patton who “threatened” to bring the truth to the American people. They demoted him after all, slapped him in public continuously, and constantly sanctioned him for the delight of our “press” and Hollywood communist producers and the detriment to millions of lives destroyed, killed, that if Patton would have been “listened to” would not have happened.

But then he was outspoken and they were proud men and FDR loved Uncle Joe, and yes, particularly Ike, had political ambitions and “image” was everything (truth never matters as history is proving—The Big Lie and the masses—all about what they “think” is the truth—agitprop has worked since the 20’s).

Ike realized how extremely dangerous he was to their mass “perception”. If you haven’t figured out how deadly politics is—yes, it is a game—but it is a DEADLY one. Why do you think so many politicians are quiet today against an outright communist in the office of presidency? Why do every single one of them have body guards? Why do people who criticize the president like Beck fear for their life and spend millions on body guards for all their family.
Why should Murdoch be very frightened.

This has been going on for centuries. Read Machiavelli or even Sir Acton’s quote. Do you not understand the evil of political power?????????

But anyhow— I think the Soviets probably beat our Allies to it. The Communists were always sneakier....look at Yalta and the millions Stalin got to massacre and tell THEM their families and the hundreds of millions of people who were enslaved, that Patton was wrong. The Russians were far too weak at the end of the war—it would have been simple. WWII devastated them and their army—Yes, the truth and principles mattered. It is why Churchill was snubbed by FDR at Yalta. EVIL POLITICS!

Both Patton and MacArthur were right—two of our greatest military geniuses were shut up and who had a hand in it? (http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue05/acheson.htm) Secretary of State Dean Acheson.

The world would be a much better place had they listened to the greatest generals and not communists, yet. if we had listened to them and destroyed China and Russia and that deadly Communist ideology which only enslaves and kills we wouldn’t be here today. Now look at the Communists and the power they have amassed and there creation of their new world order.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol47no1/article02.html


17 posted on 07/21/2011 9:53:04 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie
People die in freakish accidents on a regular basis even great generals.

If anything the Soviets would have wanted him to kill as many Germans as he could since they had been demanding just such a policy from the beginning of the war. You cannot have it both ways. Anything that hastened the Nazi collapse would have helped Stalin.

“The vehicle exhibited by the government as the one he died in?” Huh?

“The missing reports?” Huh? How do you know what was in them, they are missing.

“No autopsy of such an important person?” Seems to be unnecessary since he died from the effects of the paralysis caused by the accident, a pulmonary embolism.

It is not strange that Patton died what is strange is that he lived so long. He was constantly at the front and his men were always amazed to find him ahead of them in fast moving battles. They could not figure out how he got ahead of them time after time.

“The Soviet assassination hit list?” Everyone should fear the deadly US Army truck driven by an American Sergeant, a killer of thousands.

“The plane he was in which was shot down and he miraculously survived?” Planes are shot down in wars.

“The bullets that barely missed him?” Bullets are fired at people, even great generals, in wars.

“The lies and innuendos about his actions which were repeated by the Allied leaders?” Is this different than the lies and innuendos told about Ike such as the one that he was a commie?

“The deliberate thwarting of Patton’s offensives—so his victories would be less so and kill thousands of more men?” Stalin would not have liked that so his puppets in the Allied military would have earned his condemnation for not giving George his head. In reality military leaders have different ideas all the time over how to proceed in a war.

“All credible historians who said that Patton’s ideas were far superior to Montgomery’s and Ike’s and would have ended the war over a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of men” Fringe and cranks are not “credible” they are incredible.

The rest of your farrago is nothing more than a few half truths blown up into a paranoid mess.

18 posted on 07/21/2011 10:48:24 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: savagesusie
All credible historians who said that Patton’s ideas were far superior to Montgomery’s and Ike’s and would have ended the war over a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of men. Right.

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Name a few.

And then explain how we could have ended the war without an invasion of Europe.

37 posted on 07/25/2011 3:07:19 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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