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Jersey City gun ‘buyback’ illustrates character of characters behind it(NJ)
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 20 July, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/21/2011 5:02:39 AM PDT by marktwain

On Monday, I blogged about a Jersey City gun "buyback" on The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance—my focus was on the ignorant cop collecting guns who was photographed with his finger curled on the trigger. At the time, the “buyback” proprietors did not release a number of guns collected, but did say it “exceeded expectations.”

Now we find out how high they set those expectations: They collected 65 guns. None, of course, from criminals, unless somebody wanted to take advantage of the “No Questions Asked” policy and either cash in on a stolen gun or else dispose of violent crime evidence.

The hoplophobic hyperbole in the follow up report abounds:

The number might not be large but includes some particularly dangerous firearms, officials said.

“The devastation this gun could add to any street corner is truly catastrophic,” Police Chief Tom Comey said yesterday while holding up a machine gun pistol he referred to as a “street sweeper.”

The chief said the gun, a MAC 10, has a 30-round magazine that can be expended in 10 seconds and it can also be modified to fire in fully automatic mode.

Assuming he doesn’t know and is just throwing out terms to gin up hysteria, take note: This is a “Streetsweeper.” It’s a shotgun. I’ll give the “Authorized Journalist” boob parroting the propaganda the benefit of the doubt and assume he doesn’t know that a semi-automatic variant of a MAC-10 is not a “machine gun pistol”—and what a shameful reflection on his profession that he doesn’t, and just blindly repeats the crap he’s been fed by an agenda-driven tax-feeder. And as far as modifying it to full auto, y’know, if you are a competent gunsmith with the parts and the training and the inclination to commit federal felonies,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; buyback; gunbuyback; hudsoncounty; jerseycity; left; nj
Once upon a time, in a place far, far away, some shady characters wanted me to convert a bunch of pistols to full auto. I told them no, that the pistols had been designed to make it difficult to convert to full auto.

They were disappointed, and I told them that the guns were much more effective in semi-auto anyway.

Weirdly, they said, well, we didn't want to hurt anyone, just make a lot of noise! It was a strange insight into people who styled themselves as potential revolutionaries.

1 posted on 07/21/2011 5:02:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Probably just bored ATF agents out for a little fun.


2 posted on 07/21/2011 5:06:50 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain
And as far as modifying it to full auto, y’know, if you are a competent gunsmith with the parts and the training and the inclination to commit federal felonies...

i'd think you'd be smart enough to use something a little better than a mac10.
3 posted on 07/21/2011 5:15:47 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: marktwain
I'll have to dig up the story here in Little Rock, but the video shows two amish youts going into a gas station to rob/kill clerk. The boy at the door had a revolver, and the robber had a Mac 10 semi auto pistol. Somewhere in "da hood" they heard the way to make it fire full auto was to file down the firing pin.

Without testfiring, these genious' went into the store flashmob style, and the revolver kid held the door open and watch for "da 5-0".

Mac 10 guy walks up to counter, pulls gun, click click click click......tries to chamber new round, points again, click click click. Second time he performs malfunction check, clerk pulls a Charter Arms .44 magnum bulldog. Blows the kid away right there. The kid with the revolver turns around to receive 2nd blast in the belly button.

Both kids lived 2 houses away, and the man knew both of them since they could walk away from their crack house as toddlers. One dead, one paralyzed for life.

Great shooting. The news report showed the mandatory "momma" showing up and confronting the store owner saying "he was a good boy", "You didn't have to shoot him" nonsense. Next best part was the LRPD PIO saying, "we retreived a Mac 10 pistol that was illegally converted to fully automatic fire by filing down the firing pin". LOL! That rumor still floats around Pine Bluff, Memphis, and Little Rock, today.

If I ever figure out how to tranfer from VHS to DVD to Internet, I want to show it to you.

4 posted on 07/21/2011 5:23:01 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: marktwain

There’s a local city councilwoman, who is IMO the most despicable human being I know, who would get money from a local Democrat businessman and stage a gun buyback whenever she is running for office. It gets her publicity and raves from the editorialists. But our city is engulfed in a wave of violent crime, and of course, the gun buyback changes nothing.

One day I had a flier stuck in my mail slot that had directions for making a working gun out of materials available in any hardware store. The anonymous author urged us to make enough home made guns so that we could sell them in the buyback program, take the money and buy a real weapon.


5 posted on 07/21/2011 5:55:06 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: marktwain
Reporters don't know rifles from shotguns, and they are proud of their ignorance, since they consider firearms inherently evil.
6 posted on 07/21/2011 6:14:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DCBryan1

“If I ever figure out how to tranfer from VHS to DVD to Internet, I want to show it to you.”

To convert from VHS to DVD you buy or rent a DVD player/recorder with RCA or SVHS inputs that allow you to connect a VHS VCR to the DVD player/recorder. Insert a blank disk into the DVD machine, set it to record and start it recording, then play the VHS tape into the DVD machine. To post the result on the Internet, get a YouTube account and follow their posting instructions. Good luck. It would be a great thing to watch.


7 posted on 07/21/2011 6:51:07 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Travis McGee
“The devastation this gun could add to any street corner is truly catastrophic,” Police Chief Tom Comey said yesterday while holding up a machine gun pistol he referred to as a “street sweeper.”

"The chief said the gun, a MAC 10, has a 30-round magazine that can be expended in 10 seconds and it can also be modified to fire in fully automatic mode."

Chief Comey of the Jersey City Police department is a classic example of a typical Northeastern Police Chief. He doesn't want anyone in the city except his officers to have firearms, and anyone that does, is a potential criminal in his eyes. If you ever see a picture of him, you may think to yourself that his time would be far better served on a treadmill at the gym, instead of pontificating his absurd views on the 2nd amendment, and his ignorance thereof.

8 posted on 07/21/2011 6:53:32 AM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Say Nope To The Hope Dope in '12!!!!!)
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To: Seamus Mc Gillicuddy

Yeah, the mystery of math is lost on these folks as well.

A FA MAC 10 has an advertised cyclic rate of 700 RPM, so a 30 round mage would be gone in 700RPM/60 sec= 11.67 rounds per second, 30 rnds/11.67RPS= 2.57 seconds....

Facts are all too often optional for most people, LEOs nothwithstandng.

I am glad, however, the PD stated that filing the FP is an illegal conversion to FA-that way more stupid perps would do it, expereince a failure to fire, and get a 44 spl (or similar) round to the face more often.


9 posted on 07/21/2011 8:33:18 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Travis McGee
Reporters don't know rifles from shotguns, and they are proud of their ignorance, since they consider firearms inherently evil.

I am proud of my ignorance, since I consider "reporters" inherently evil.

10 posted on 07/21/2011 9:08:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain
if it's a real MAC-10, it came full-auto from the factory...

if it's a knock-off firing semi-auto like the early Cobray or SWD versions that fired from an Open-bolt it's not hard to do

ALL versions made in the USA from the late 70's early 80's on (don't remember the year) fire from a Closed-bolt by law and that is NOT so easily do able

11 posted on 07/21/2011 3:16:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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