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Eyewitness: 20-25 Bodies at Youth Camp (Photos inside)
ABC News ^ | 7/22/2011 | AP

Posted on 07/22/2011 12:06:27 PM PDT by Smogger

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301 posted on 07/22/2011 9:17:03 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Smogger

BBC reported tonight that the shooter was a “white right-wing male”.


302 posted on 07/22/2011 9:28:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: silverleaf
shooter was blonde and looked Norwegian

The BBC referred to the man also as "right-wing". Nothing about Islam. Are we getting false reporting here or are they reporting using their PC crap?

303 posted on 07/22/2011 9:30:08 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Smogger

Hopefully the gun did not originate from Northern Mexico


304 posted on 07/22/2011 9:31:17 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: HollyB

I don’t see how one man could kill 80 kids without adults there trying to stop him, rushing him, throwing tables, etc. How could one walk around killing people all over the place - in the water, one various sides of the island, etc. It would have taken some time, how long did it take for rescuers to arrive? Why couldn’t they get a helicopter there fast?

And now FR is crawling with Norwegians and muslim apologists - one of which was found to have admitted he’s a muslim.

This stinks.


305 posted on 07/22/2011 9:42:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: HollyB

I found it finally. I have way too many windows open.

Someone said Pamela Geller doesn’t think “Fjordman” did it. I just found her site, reading now:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/


306 posted on 07/22/2011 9:54:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: HollyB

Aha, I get it. Fjordman is a particular person. Sorry for misinformation.

(slinking away in shame.)


307 posted on 07/22/2011 9:55:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Having a rifle among unarmed, or a pistol, is absolute power over those without them. You can’t rush and stop someone with a gun. You might be able to get them when reloading, but like Cho had and this guy.. If you don’t have to stop. It’s a free-for-all.


309 posted on 07/23/2011 12:02:54 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: All Abrahamic to me; Lurker; Admin Moderator

You’re a useless sack of skin troll.


310 posted on 07/23/2011 12:24:01 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I’d seen someone surmising that he might have set the bomb off remotely, so he would have been able to take a boat to the island while doing so, thus he could in fact have been the bomber and the shooter.


311 posted on 07/23/2011 12:36:07 AM PDT by SuziQ
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Rambo had nothing on this Norwegian.

This Norwegian had incredible skills. He put together a powerful car bomb and we have seen how hard that is from Times Square and London. To top that off he planted another bomb high up in a nearby building and timed it to go off when the first responders were on scene dealing with the first device. That takes a high degree of expertise and coordination. Only a highly trained demo man could pull this off. But that is of course not all. He then drove 40 miles, got in a boat, talked his way into a camp in a disguise and killed 87 people with small arms. Somehow, at some point, whether earlier or during this evolution, he also planted a third bomb on the island but that one was discovered and disarmed.

This would make James Bond green with envy.

The skills necessary for a bombmaker are generally different from those of a shooter. This one guy was a one man Army. Or so we are told less than 8 hours after action.

One lone “madman” with a “minor” criminal record...

I ain’t buying it.


312 posted on 07/23/2011 5:30:17 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: caww

Well so far we have managed to stop the one the one they are trying to build in old historic Lilburn, GA. Every community is going to have to stand up and say no. The Feds are not going to say no.


313 posted on 07/23/2011 7:57:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: El Cid

Yes I think we all need to bear in mind that when the framers of the Constitution were putting that document together as the foundation for our new govt they never in a million years visualized a trillion Muslims trying to move to the US. If so it would have been worded as “freedom of religion except for Islam.”


314 posted on 07/23/2011 8:01:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smogger

He’s a “Right-Wing Blonde-Haired Blue-Eyed Christian Fundamentalist” dontcha know.

His Facebook page said so, so that ends it. /s

But if the perp stood up and screamed “Allah Akbar” while shooting the victims, had “Soldier of Allah” on his business card, and had openly advocated jihad on company time (Ft. Hood), they would say “we can’t go jumping to any conclusions.”


315 posted on 07/23/2011 8:32:55 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I agree...the people are the ones to speak out...however the local Gov. unfortunately have been infiltrated themselves by Muslims and thus the difficulty. This of course is part of their plan and warfare in the USA. To win by taking Gov. offices....to role play the “established good citizen of the year”...etc. etc. and they are trained well how to do this.

Additionally once in office...even if they might otherwise choose to be civil and a true representative of their area, when the time comes where they can influence the Islamic agenda they will be called on and threatened if they don't comply.....thus having Muslims in office in our country I see as a national security issue. The Imams and Foreign Governments will press these people to act in their favor....and the Islamic Agenda to conquer the world continues it's March...only this time not with guns but with political power and oil money.

316 posted on 07/23/2011 10:18:10 AM PDT by caww
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Only a highly trained demo man could pull this off.... He then drove 40 miles, got in a boat, talked his way into a camp in a disguise and killed 87 people with small arms....... he also planted a third bomb on the island but that one was discovered and disarmed. This would make James Bond green with envy. The skills necessary for a bombmaker are generally different from those of a shooter. This one guy was a one man Army. Or so we are told less than 8 hours after action. One lone “madman” with a “minor” criminal record... I ain’t buying it.

I so agree with this...and how did he plant the bombs without detection? How many bombs were there? This operation was funded how? Was the guy independantly wealthy? Lots of questions needing answers.

317 posted on 07/23/2011 10:23:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: silverleaf

This is strangely very much like OK city. Many in the anti-terrorist (Islamoterrorists that is) believe McVeigh was a “white, gun nut, militia” “cut-out”.

That is the real terrorists supply the money and means and “setup” an already nutty person to do this. “Cut-outs” have been used by KGB, Mossad, Cubans, German Nazis— you name it. It is a common technique, and the value of the cutout is to shield from a gullible press, or to make inroads against the very group you are “cutting out” because they represent a greater threat.

This blue-eyed “nazi” type fits the bill entirely. Did anyone see the formal photo of him in his Masonic apron? That should add to the cred of the “cut-out” This has islamofascism written all over it.


318 posted on 07/23/2011 11:27:49 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SaraJohnson

In keeping with Quisling’s collaboration with the nazis, their history.
You will find very brave people that were in the Norwegian resistance in WWII.
But the basic govt. were just like the Vichy in France, and the central tenet was anti-jew (coupled with norse paganism of a thread with nazi paganism).


319 posted on 07/23/2011 11:56:01 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for the link.

It is especially interesting to note that after his wife died, Vidkun Quislings manor home was turned into a holocaust memorial museum (focusing on Norwegian jewish deportees- who were sent to concentration camps).

Do you think the predominant leftist socialists are the result of ascendancy post WWII of pro-Quisling (ie. pro Nazi)leftists? This, coupled with this article give a rather different picture of Norway.

A pro nationalist movement that kicks out the cleric (name?) in the last 2 weeks, would be seen to be becoming anti-muslim socialists. Interesting.

That said, this was an organized terrorist plot- not one person. The one person is a cover being provided by someone deep in the leftist govt.


320 posted on 07/23/2011 12:31:42 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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