Obama and Debt Crisis like Lincoln and Emancipation Proclamation?

FOXNEWS ^ | July 22, 2011 | Jennifer Suzara

[Son House]

In recent weeks, there have been many metaphors and analogies from President Obama in describing the negotiations on the debt and the deficit. He's used terms like "shared sacrifice," "eat our peas," and putting aside "our sacred cows" in the name coming to an agreement.

Speaking at the University of Maryland, Mr. Obama said Lincoln had his convictions, but he was constantly making concessions and compromises. "[T]he great emancipator was making a compromise in the Emancipation Proclamation because he thought it was necessary in terms of advancing the goals of preserving the Union and winning the war," Obama said.

The proclamation signed by Lincoln in 1863 did not abolish slavery all together. It applied only to states that had rebelled against the Union, leaving slavery legal in the border states during the Civil War. Total abolition of slavery was finalized by the 13th amendment which took effect 3 years later.

Obama brought up the proclamation, which he says is hanging in the Oval Office, after being asked a question by Mary Wagner, a school teacher in the audience. Wagner explained that she is teaching her students about the two-party governmental system and the importance of compromise. But Wagner asked "[A]re things changing?...Do we not use compromise anymore?"

The president said that Wagner was correct to question it because culture is now pushing against compromise. But "if Abraham Lincoln could make some compromises as part of governance," Obama said, "[T]hen surely we can make some compromises when it comes to handling our budget."

But he explained that if everybody is demonizing the other side and becoming more extremist and untrustworthy, it's not going to be possible. "In that kind of atmosphere, it's pretty hard to compromise," Obama said. "So we have to wind back from that kind of political culture."

[Son House]

Well yes, it is about enslaving people as many of my piers can explain what high tax rates and big Government do.

In recent weeks, there have been many metaphors and analogies from President Obama in describing the negotiations on the debt and the deficit.

Because someone who has a good grasp of budget should talk in metaphors if it serves their agenda not to solve the underlying issues.

[Fzob]

"In that kind of atmosphere, it's pretty hard to compromise," Obama said. "So we have to wind back from that kind of political culture."

Sounds like Obama needs to take the lead on this.

[Fzob]

"In that kind of atmosphere, it's pretty hard to compromise," Obama said. "So we have to wind back from that kind of political culture."

Sounds like Obama needs to take the lead on this.

[Go Gordon]

The fact that the Republicans are going to raise the cap at all, is already a compromise. Odumbass has spent us into oblivion and he wants more blank checks and a ton of extra credit cards. Nice try by the author to try and paint conservatives as not compromising and not willing to "share sacrifice". How about this for shared sacrifice. As long as we tax our wages instead of consumption, it should be mandatory that all wage earners pay something in taxes. Having almost half the work force paying no federal taxes is a huge problem for this country.

Once everyone has a stake in the game, lets see how enticing Odumbass can make it sound to raise taxes.

[Louis Foxwell]

Obama’s brain is a goedian pretzel. Lincoln made no compromise with the Emancipation Proclamation. It was simply a matter of decreeing that all slaves in southern states where the Union had no jurisdiction by virtue of southern emancipation from the Union were considered free. He did not compromise on the Union’s continued support of slavery in their own states. A compromise would assume he opposed slavery. His words betrayed that belief.

[sergeantdave]

Lincoln freed the slaves; obuma wants to re-establish slavery.

[Son House]

As long as we tax our wages instead of consumption, it should be mandatory that all wage earners pay something in taxes. Having almost half the work force paying no federal taxes is a huge problem for this country.

Good point. And any tax code changes should be in a separate bill, I support Republicans on that point so it doesn't blind-side the economy even more

[FreedBird]

Obama is hurting the very people he says he wants to help.
The Nations credit card debt will never be paid off. His followers are addicted to Big Government and dependent on the Democrat Party for survival. He is buying votes with tax money, as the Big Media controls them with brain washing propaganda. The nation seems to be stuck in quick sand.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Lead, follow or get out of the way.

Community organizing s not part of the equation.

[FreedBird]

That is all Obama is. He is a Community Organizer period.
He has few leadership qualities.

[Darkwolf377]

“[T]hen surely we can make some compromises when it comes to handling our budget.”

The top congressional leaders from both parties gathered at the White House for a working discussion over the shape and size of President Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan. The meeting was designed to promote bipartisanship.

But Obama showed that in an ideological debate, he’s not averse to using a jab.

Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: “I won.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/

[Diamond]

A compromise would assume he opposed slavery. His words betrayed that belief.

You were fine up until that point, but to mischaracterize Lincoln as not opposing slavery is to conflate his personal ideals with the purely pragmatic wartime measures he undertook as Commander-in-Chief. Lincoln's primary goal during the war was to preserve the Union, not to abolish slavery, it is true, but his pushing for passage of the 13th Amendment and his writings, as can be seen in his Letter to Albert G. Hodgesbelie belie the claim that he did not oppose slavery.

The Democrat Party has always been and still is to this day the party of Slavery, so the narcissist Odumbo comparing himself to Lincoln is nothing but one more of his bizarre twistings of history.

Cordially,

[combat_boots]

Sherman attacked Atlanta on July 22.

[Louis Foxwell]

It was not until late in the war that Lincoln became an abolitionist. The EP was more tactical than ideological in my opinion.

[StonyBurk]

Lincoln I can respect . Obama I will NEVER be able to respect.
Any Enemy of my Country -and anti-Christ does not deserve my respect.