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Lawmakers Renew Push to Reach Deal on Cutting Deficit (Boehner: Deal in Place To Cut $3-4 Trillion)
New york Times ^ | July 23, 2011 | CARL HULSE and JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 07/23/2011 1:56:30 PM PDT by lbryce

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Talk of Wall Street, commerce making contingency plans for a scenario of a US default put the fear of the Almighty in them to cut a deal NOW!
1 posted on 07/23/2011 1:56:35 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Excatly HOW does the Bonehead and GOP plan to reconcile “the need to cut spending now” with “$3-4 trillion in cuts OVER 10 YEARS”?


2 posted on 07/23/2011 2:05:37 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: lbryce
Oh dear God, GOP, don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again.

"Don't go all wobbly on me, George" - Margaret Thatcher to then President George H.W. Bush.

3 posted on 07/23/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Common Sense 101

Yeah, and it wouldn’t surprise me if these cuts aren’t really decreases in the increase. That’s usually the way things go in D. C.


4 posted on 07/23/2011 2:09:21 PM PDT by 1raider1
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To: lbryce

Forget the 10 year cut. We know how that goes. The question is: What’s the cut in 2012. Anything else is just make believe.

And I’m betting the 2012 cuts will be close to zero. Obama wants to spend $1.6 trillion or so that he doesn’t have in 2012. That needs to get carved down by at least $400-$500 billion. I’m not holding my breath.


5 posted on 07/23/2011 2:18:25 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: lbryce

$3-4 TRILLION in cuts over 10 years?

I need a year by year breakdown of exactly how much is cut per year and which specific programs will be cut each year and by how much. Let’s get SERIOUS about this.

Methinks the answer will be backloaded to the extreme. Which means, of course, as it has many times in the past, that few, if any, of the cuts will be made.


6 posted on 07/23/2011 2:19:01 PM PDT by upchuck (A default is not an economic event. It is a political event.)
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To: lbryce

3 to 4 trillion over a decade is pure horse crap. We should be asking for 6 to 9 billion a year for ever until no debt. What the hell is the matter with these fools thinking we buy this crap?


7 posted on 07/23/2011 2:20:08 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Excuse me, but this fool doesn’t understand how your program works.


8 posted on 07/23/2011 2:27:09 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: lbryce

OVER 10 YEARS IS FRUAD and all of us know it.....


9 posted on 07/23/2011 2:27:20 PM PDT by stockpirate (Republicans that vote for socialism, support socialists are socialists.)
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To: lbryce

everyone knows that "future cuts" will never ever happen

10 posted on 07/23/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: upchuck

I think 3-4 trillion is not enough. We are 165 billion short a month if nothing changes. So right off the bat you have to cut 165 billion a month to stay ahead.

Now add in the 500 billion to keep the place running for the next 3-4 months, you have to add another 170 billion the first 3 months then go back to 165 billion a month.

How do we cut 165 billion a month is the question? Obamacare would be about 35 billion a month. If they sell oil leases and open ANWAR, they can probably generate another 10 billion a month in taxes from the economy growing again.

Get rid of FrankenDodd and probably can generate another 10 billion a month in tax revenue that can go to pay down the debt.

I am guessing after that, everything gets cut by 25%.

How close am I?


11 posted on 07/23/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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it wouldn’t surprise me if these cuts aren’t really decreases in the increase

I am sure that's exactly what they are, plus they won't ever happen

12 posted on 07/23/2011 2:33:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: lbryce

A deal that “could cut” over “10 years”?


13 posted on 07/23/2011 2:35:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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“Excuse me, but this fool doesn’t understand how your program works.”

You make up the difference on volume.


14 posted on 07/23/2011 2:39:33 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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Moodys already said they want to see FOUR TRILLION in cuts.

The McConnell "backup" doesn't even reach 2 trillion and was panned by Moodys.

This better be a decent deal. It won't be "great" because it hasn't the "teeth" of a Balanced Budget Amendment and no "10 year deal" has any meaning since one congress can't require the next to spend at certain levels going forward.

Cuts need to be made now and they better be over $100 billion like "Cut, Cap & Balance."

No matter what happens, Obama will spin it as a victory for himself and blame Republicans for anything that goes wrong.

15 posted on 07/23/2011 2:44:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Logical me

“3 to 4 trillion over a decade is pure horse crap. We should be asking for 6 to 9 billion a year for ever until no debt.”

Your plan will take from 110-160 years to work. Not very effective.

There is a huge MOMENTUM and the spending train needs to be ended slowly else we will see Greek style rioting except our “offended” will have weapons. Do you really want to risk that?


16 posted on 07/23/2011 2:55:42 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: lbryce

Why doesn’t he just pressure the Senate to pass the house bill? Why bother to “hammer” out a new one? Spinless wimp a**ed republican leaders.


17 posted on 07/23/2011 2:57:33 PM PDT by calex59
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To: newzjunkey

There WILL BE immediate FY 12 spending cuts like CCB for FY 12, otherwise the package won’t pass the House and won’t avoid a credit downgrade.

Boehner hasn’t caved to date. He knows his speakership is on the line with his own caucus. The problem is Reid and Schumer; and whether a few Senate moderate RATS will come to their senses - those terrified about Nov 2012.

Boehner has given BO the finger publicly - made him a hollow, empty suit over the last 48 hours. This is unprecedented, and Boehner deserves our appreciation, not criticism. I am not saying that we need to remain vigilant, but Boehner hasn’t caved yet.

If you want immediate cuts, you should be calling your reps and Senators - especially the RATS - to support Boehner.


18 posted on 07/23/2011 2:58:34 PM PDT by mwl8787
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He was going to get his increase anyway so $3-$4 trillion is not too bad as long as they only increase the debt for one year. Make Obama have to deal with this again right at election time.
19 posted on 07/23/2011 3:55:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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“$3-4 trillion” looks like a big number. Over ten years, eh? The deficit over ten years is about $15 trillion, if they don’t make it higher next year than this year. The government-dependent (nearly all politically involved constituents) are going to suck every bit that they can out of this debt regime toward certain default.


20 posted on 07/23/2011 3:57:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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