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Red-Light Cameras Aren’t the Bonanza Cities Expected
Miami Herald ^ | Saturday, 07.23.11 | DAVID WALTER

Posted on 07/23/2011 11:57:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 07/23/2011 11:57:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Tell that to our mayor in Houston. The voters voted it out. She recently turned them back on without a peep to the voter until the day she turned them on.

Can we say under the table deal?


2 posted on 07/24/2011 12:03:53 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nickcarraway
The city anticipated $3.2 million in revenue from its six cameras, but as of Thursday they had generated a little more than $1 million. Of that, nearly half goes back to the state as required under the 1-year-old law; the city will pay $300,000 to American Traffic Solutions, the company that installed and operates the cameras in Broward and Miami-Dade; and court and administrative costs to the city will take out another chunk, said city spokesman Mark Little. Not every city has been disappointed. Last year, North Miami anticipated $369,080 in red-light-camera revenues and actually collected $977,159. This year, Aventura has already collected $787,007, more than what it expected for the entire year.

Wow, that's a lot of monetary public safety!

Why with revenues like THAT Ft. Lauderdale HAS to be the safest city in the country to drive in.

It give a warm a fuzzy feeling knowing that public servants have such caring hearts for the well being of drivers to take so much of their money.

3 posted on 07/24/2011 12:03:54 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: nickcarraway

lol!!

This is great.


4 posted on 07/24/2011 12:09:22 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: nickcarraway
But camera opponents don’t think there’s any correlation between the red-light cameras and safety records. “There’s no evidence that these cameras do anything to stop accidents,” Hollander said.

If they were for safety's sake they wouldn't use them.

There have been reports of intersection accident rates in some area's going up after implementing them.

5 posted on 07/24/2011 12:11:40 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: nickcarraway

Cry me a river.


6 posted on 07/24/2011 12:14:28 AM PDT by microgood
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To: nickcarraway

When revenue drops, they shorten the yellow lights...


7 posted on 07/24/2011 12:16:07 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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“The role of enforcement is not to generate revenue for a city,” he said.

Bull. Most of the cities installing these devices gave a lot of lip service to increasing safety, but what really sold them was the representations by the vendor of increased revenue. Some vendors even convince the municipality to decrease the yellow-light duration as a way of further augmenting revenue.

And I wonder if any studies have examined the effect of these devices on rear-ender accidents caused as panicked drivers slam on their brakes instead of safely proceeding through the intersection?

8 posted on 07/24/2011 12:17:18 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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More on previous comment: some evidence that cities shorten yellow light duration to increase revenue:

http://blog.motorists.org/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/


9 posted on 07/24/2011 12:28:22 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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Government/socialism at all levels local, state and federal is the cancer that is destroying America and our way of life.


10 posted on 07/24/2011 12:33:59 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Spartan79

There are many; the supermajority show that the cameras do increase the number of rear-end accidents at intersection.

Other studies show that if the concern is T-bone accidents at intersections, *lengthening* the yellow light at an intersection actually reduces accidents an average of about the same amount as the best case presented for the cameras. Cost to city: $0.

These cameras are ALL about revenue.


11 posted on 07/24/2011 12:34:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: microgood

Back in the 90’s in Anchorage the problem quickly became how to keep people from shooting them in town. It got outta hand quick, and the Az Company left town with their cameras; of course the city had to pay a big fee to get out of contract and it about destroyed Begich’s career as he was the crook behind the scam. State passed a law for future, no red light cameras anywhere in Alaska.


12 posted on 07/24/2011 12:52:06 AM PDT by Eska
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To: microgood

Back in the 90’s in Anchorage the problem quickly became how to keep people from shooting them in town. It got outta hand quick, and the Az Company left town with their cameras; of course the city had to pay a big fee to get out of contract and it about destroyed Begich’s career as he was the crook behind the scam. State passed a law for future, no red light cameras anywhere in Alaska.


13 posted on 07/24/2011 12:52:27 AM PDT by Eska
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Alaskan’s bring a smile to my face.....


14 posted on 07/24/2011 1:13:02 AM PDT by goat granny
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Sadly, they learned from the Alaska experience and when they brought them to Texas, they encased them in armored boxes and put a surveillance camera high above on another pole to watch the entire installation.


15 posted on 07/24/2011 1:27:55 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ltc8k6

Yes they do!

They’ve been caught at it several times, but get away with flimsy excuses, correct the lights temporarily, and the cycle starts over again, and again, ......


16 posted on 07/24/2011 1:41:29 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Spktyr
Corrupt politician's sure are sneaky. There has to be a way to spray paint them....will take some reconnaissance from someone Use a paint that cannot be cleaned off. Like rustoleum...(OK one can dream )....:O) take out the high surveillance first...
17 posted on 07/24/2011 1:46:30 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: nickcarraway

— and cognizant of the fact that it costs $158 to pay by mail but $277 if you lose in court — most simply choose to pay by mail. Or at least they did in the beginning of the program.
But therein lies another constitutional issue. Lawyers argue that it is improperly coercive to penalize citizens for availing themselves of the courts.

Glad to see I am not the only one to notice this constitutional issue.

Of course our MSM is very busy indoctrinating us to believe that we really do not have ANY rights, cops are infallible, they always KNOW who the guilty party is immediately on meeting them. etc.
Pay attention to the activities of “Law Enforcement” on any TV show, our “Rights” are smirked at and skirted at every opportunity.
Warrant-less searches “I think I hear some one inside, hand me that rock”, intimidation of “suspects” - Yah Sarge, he tripped, and hit his head”, it goes on and on.

The cameras ARE for revenue, our rights are ignored in the quest for unenumerated taxes.

And politicians wonder why they are despised!


18 posted on 07/24/2011 1:52:19 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Spktyr

I’ve seen those other studies. If it was about safety, the yellow light can be lengthened a minute amount and make a huge difference. But, as you said, this is about revenue.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 1:54:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: goat granny

Time for some clever FR person with an interest in electronics to give us the plans for portable tightly focused microwave energy emitters.

Aw gee, the camera overheated again!

A good laser might do some good too, and they are already available.


20 posted on 07/24/2011 1:56:17 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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