[tennmountainman]

He said he had the votes to pass this bill, even before the CBO score came out. It really does not matter if the cuts are 850 billion oe 2 zillion. They are phantom future cuts. They will never happen. What has happened is once again Bonehead says one thing and the facts (CBO Score) says another. Allen West and Paul Ryan stuck their neck out in support, before the CBO scores came out. They look like the fools.

[Principled]

To me what matters is that first year cuts are measly $6 Billion. You're right - out years may as well be 275 gazillian... they don't happen.

But it doesn't make sense that Boehner would say he had the votes - he has not ever said that before I don't think.

Then for Cantor and West to come out, before they see the plan... it's very strange.

I continue to hope that there is a plan that is not yet evident.

I suppose if something bad does pass that it can be pinned on dems and we still have upper hand in nov 12.