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To: TheThirdRuffian

“The critical element is penetration”

I’m guessing he carries a 9mm.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 4:36:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
“The critical element is penetration”

The critical element is hits.

3 posted on 07/26/2011 4:37:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: driftdiver

Coming away from it, I pretty much determined he’d carry a Remington 870 shotgun, if he could, as pistols are pretty well useless for immediatley stopping a threat (which is the goal).

One fact that was interesting to me was “knock down” being a fallacy — the energy from a 9mm and .45 being effectively the same — about as hard as a lobbed baseball.

The key in stopping was permanent wounds, which favored the larger weapons -— but any of them with a heart shot -— the person had 15 seconds or so of life to ruin your day.

In short, unless you got a head or upper spinal cord shot, keep shooting.


8 posted on 07/26/2011 4:48:48 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: driftdiver

This is an old study by Fackler. Worth reading for anyone who hasn’t read it yet?

9mm? No. If you read the last paragraph it concluded that penetration stops and the bigger the hole the better. Nothing wrong with 9mm but the bigger the hole the better.


56 posted on 07/26/2011 9:29:49 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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