[logician2u]

Between the tree-huggers and the planners, Oregon is about 25 years behind the rest of the nation in matters of infrastructure. Not to mention the aging hippies, lost in a time warp still driving daisy-decaled VW beetles. Or no self-service gas stations.

It wasn't always so, although to us youngsters it just seems that way.

Randal O'Toole's take is honest and refreshing: Henry J. Is Spinning in His Grave.

My mother, who spent three years there (in Vancouver, not Portland) as a newly-wed while my dad was in the Army, always spoke highly of Kaiser and his shipbuilding efforts. Nobody did it better.

[djf]

Still cant pump your own gas down there? Been a while since I was in that neck of the woods...

[Portcall24]

Between the tree-huggers and the planners, Oregon is about 25 years behind the rest of the nation in matters of infrastructure. Not to mention the aging hippies, lost in a time warp still driving daisy-decaled VW beetles. Or no self-service gas stations.

These creatures have destroyed my home State completely. They have no understanding that trees are an agricultural crop that grow back. And what really gets me, most of the support for the tree-hugger organizations comes from New York City and other metro areas where they have never seen (or will ever see) a real tree. But they want to protect them because it looks cool in the brochure.