Posted on 07/27/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by CedarDave
The dirty little secret in Texas is that many of the 2nd,third etc Americans of Mexican decent DO NOT LIKE the newest wave of immigrants from South of the border.
These folks are in business,own their own homes and see all the BS in taxes, the professional moochers and health care cost rise due to immigration, they tend to vote GOP REAL QUICK as do many of their employees along with family members.
The Hispanics to be wary are the ones employed by the state or federal government. They are just like their anglo cousins...lefty as hell.
There is a very quiet battle within the so Hispanic community over immigration that the media glosses over.
What’s eventually going to happen is what I;m seeing right now in L.A. In S Africa, whites are the armed minority and that there is now a ignore’ mode to others when whites see each other on the streets. There’s no such thing as whites in L.A. hanging out with non-whites. I have seen it and it’s extremely rare. When you know and feel you are the minority, you naturally look for your own kind.
Hispanics voted for Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden over Republicans
John McCain and Sarah Palin by a margin of more than two-to-one in the 2008
presidential election, 67% versus 31%, according to an analysis by the Pew
Hispanic Center of exit polls from Edison Media Research as published by CNN.1
Nationally, all Latino demographic sub-groups voted for Obama by heavy
margins. According to the national exit poll, 64% of Hispanic males and 68% of
Hispanic females supported Obama. Latino youth, just as all youth nationwide,
supported Obama over McCain by a lopsided margin – 76% versus 19%.
Obama carried the Latino vote by sizeable margins in all states with large Latino
populations. His biggest breakthrough came in Florida, where he won 57% of the
Latino vote in a state where Latinos have historically supported Republican
presidential candidates (President Bush carried 56% of the Latino vote in Florida
in 2004). Obama’s margins were much larger in other states with big Latino
populations. He carried 78% of the Latino vote in New Jersey, 76% in Nevada,
and 74% in California.
The Democrats--with the help of the MSM, Hollywood, university professors, etc--will succeed in electing a President for Life who will manage to provide enough free entertainment and food to keep the mob satisfied and themselves in power--and the American people will find themselves under the rule of Caligula.
I love that the nation’s first Hispanic female governor is a pistol-packin conservative Republican!
Is there any question, now, as to why Rubio has to be on the ticket?
It was simply horrible I tell you, horrible.
Indeed, it was! The fighting at Donauwörth and Höchstädt got pretty nasty.
It's amazing (and dangerous) that we still have people who think Hispanics are just natural Republicans when all evidence is to the contrary. Some who've been here several generations might be, but the overwhelming majority are not.
And even though a few illegals are probably voting in our elections, most do not. If the present illegal population is ever given amnesty, then the almost 70% who vote for the Dims will become an even higher percentage for the Dims.
Yes, most Hispanics are hard workers and many are Conservative, BUT... they stand with their “Hermanos y Hermanas” (brothers and sisters) who are here illegally and treated, in a way that they deem harshly or unfairly. Blood is thicker than water.
bull, the hispanic vote unlike the black vote is 50-50 and as they assemalate more than will mostly become republicans since everything about them is conservative.
Nearly all the hispanics I know are small business owners or VERY hard workers, both will lead eventually to success and with success comes conservatism. Plus they are very conservative culturally already with regard to church and family. In fact, in regards to family I would say 80% or more of hispanics are FAR more conservative than any other group including whites. Family means something to hispanics.
Ironically, the border states and those of high hispanic populations are almost unanimously moving to the right as the population shifts. TX, AZ, NM, FL are all as strong a Republican hold as they have ever been. California is the exception, but the people of all races, creeds and colors have screws loose when it comes to government.
2008 was not an aberration. It was claimed that W got 43% of the Hispanic vote, but many dispute that and think it was no higher than 37%. Many years ago Reagan got 41%, but the Hispanic population was different then with far fewer recent arrivals. All that is based on exit polls.
Besides the illegal population, Hispanics are also the largest group of legal immigrants to the US, so as their legal population has increased the past thirty or so years, so has the percentage of their vote that goes to Dims.
And if an amnesty is granted, the percentage for the Dims will got beyond 70% and probably stay there for many generations.
Anecdotal evidence is seldom reliable and you probably know Hispanics in a particular socio-economic category.
Review post #23. But their vote has never been 50%/50%, or anything close to that. The ‘claimed’ 57%/43% for W is the highest I’ve ever seen and many don’t believe that because he did poorly in the southern Texas counties.
But about 1/3 of the Hispanic population is illegal and few of them would be voting. If they were legalized, how would they vote?
And Hispanics are voting almost 70% for the Dims now.
But even if all that happens a bunch of the free stuff the entitlement class gets now will go away due to lack of funds. How happy will the “obama stash” folks be when that happens?
All I know is what I see... what I see is Hispanics moving into areas that were run down for decades by blacks and they are moving in and FIXING those areas. They have pride in their communities, they love their families, are heavily into their churches, they are hard workers, and have entrepreneurial aspirations. Those are all qualities that will lead them eventually to the Republican party. Hispanics will never be like blacks, because Hispanics never had and never will have a slave mindset of expecting others to take care of them (government). Hispanics could actually turn out to be for the west, what Europe was for Rome, the savior of Roman culture and western values. This doesn’t mean I support illegal emigration, I don’t, but I just don’t have a problem with Hispanics as a group.
But there are fairly reliable exit polls and other polls which tell us which party Hispanics vote for and identify with, and it is almost 70% for the Dims. And you can look at these two maps and see what counties W lost in 2000 and 2004, and many of them are heavily Hispanic. He lost many of the Texas border counties and many other counties in the Southwest.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm
What is the highest percentage of Hispanic vote Republicans can hope to get? It may fluctuate appreciably in state wide elections, but in national elections what is it? I think 70/30 in favor of Democrats is a fair guess, with occasional swings ranging from 60/40 to 80/20, but anyway it is spun, it is a losing proposition for Republicans and conservatives. Democrats and liberals, including progressive Republicans understood this when they started liberalizing our immigration policies in the 70s. So what to do about it now?
Republicans in New Mexico need to look back at the Bill Redmond victory. Short though his career was, he proved that a conservative could beat a liberal Democrat like Serna, if only he or she appeals to the conservative values of traditional Hispanic families. Serna’s mistake was jumping into the women’s rights and abortion issue. A lot of Hispanic Catholics stayed home on election day, and the Green vote split enough off the remaining Hispanic vote to give Redmond the win.
Catering to Hispanics on the illegal immigration issue will get Republicans nowhere. Offering traditional Hispanic families values they believe in will create conservative voters for the future. Of course, it wouldn’t hurt to look at the second part of the equation, and figure out how to offer liberal Democrats more options at the ballot box.
Where are your statistics supporting your erroneous conclusion? Just your own personal anecdotes?
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