Police Beat -Taser 'Gentle' Mentally-Ill Homeless Man To Death In Full, CA (Graphic image)

.dailymail.co.uk/news ^ | 27th July 2011 | Rachel Quigley

[dragnet2]

A shocking video has been released allegedly showing police officers tasering and beating a homeless man to death who they claim was resisting arrest.

Though the video is not clear, eye witnesses say the homeless man - Kelly Thomas, 37 - was unable to put up any resistance and was lying on the ground on his front when the attack took place on July 5.

His screams and cries for his father can be heard amid the tasering noises.

[dragnet2]

I noted you evaded the question, so I'll ask again:

Based on witness statements, and the outcome, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

[dragnet2]

Once those are complete, then you can ask me more about it.

We already know 6 officers were involved beating a 135 pound *unarmed* suspect.

Witnesses described the officers as being very large individuals, we already know the unarmed suspect was tased multiple times, we already know what witnesses stated, we have a dead body and photos of the suspect.

So based strictly on what we do know, including witness statements, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

[Berlin_Freeper]

Based on what we know - there are two investigations, and I for one am willing to wait for the conclusion of those investigations. There is potentially much that is not known, such as what happened before and after the video, that the investigations will reveal.

Considering how wrong you were when SWAT was cleared in Arizona, I would think you’d have learned a lesson and at the very least not begrudge me the opportunity to learn more facts in this case.

I really can’t see why you would have a problem with me waiting, unless there is an emotional need for 100% group compliance.

It is kind of ironic that you are so quick to fault the police for using force against a resisting suspect, yet very willing to Troll me for an answer.

[LifePath]

Not all, agreed. Doesn’t matter anymore. 90%-95% consider you and me as the enemy. They shoot the dog as sport. They shoot you and me with a slight, smiling hesitation, worried only about the paperwork.

I am saddened. My father was a police officer for 33 years. He carried milk bones with him to bribe the dogs. He never work the haircut, the sun-glasses, the body armor that modern cops LOVE to wear. He was not a pig. 99% of all cops today: PIGS.

[dragnet2]

Once those are complete, then you can ask me more about it.

We already know 6 officers were involved beating a 135 pound *unarmed* suspect.

Witnesses described the officers as being very large individuals, we already know the suspect was unarmed, was tased multiple times, we already know what witnesses stated and we have a dead body and photos of the suspect.

So based strictly on what we do know, including witness statements, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

Based on what we know - there are two investigations

Oh boy...here we go..

There is potentially much that is not known, such as what happened before and after the video, that the investigations will reveal.

Wrong

Witnesses watched 6 large officers tase and beat to death and unarmed, 135 pound suspect. There were witnesses...lol

What do you thing the cops investigation will reveal? That the suspect had a tiny machine gun that witness were not able to see or hear? Let me guess, the investigation will reveal the 6 large officers felt threatened by the unarmed 135 pound suspect?

Come on...lol

Considering how wrong you were when SWAT was cleared in Arizona

You got your teet caught in the ringer on those threads, and you were one of the few individuals that actually supports these types of gung ho dangerous, unsafe paramilitary operations in neighborhoods full of women and kids, on a suspects that didn't even have a criminal record who were shot dozens of times in his own home...Was he a mass murder? No. A terrorist no...Whoops!!

It's truly amazing and a bit scary what some people, like you support...

So once again, based strictly on what we do know, including witness statements, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

[dragnet2]

So once again, based strictly on what we do know, including witness statements, you know, people that were at the scene, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

[dragnet2]

Thought I'd give you an update.

Today Orange County Supervisor Shawn Nelson sent over this formal request to have the FBI take over the investigation of the police beating death of Kelly Thomas.

http://fullertonsfuture.org/

FBI Launches Formal Investigation into the Kelly Thomas Beating

Also, after many demands, Fullerton Police are declining to release video they seized days ago.

City of Fullerton city council members, including Sharon Silva, are now demanding all police officers involved be removed from duty and immediately put on administrative leave. In addition, it was reported by KFI, Los Angeles reported an attorney is offering over $900,000 on behalf of the City to family members.

Witnesses coming forward say they just continued beating the unarmed supect and tasing him when he was down, until he was unrecognizable. Bus riders and others say they watched a murder take place.

So once again, based strictly on what we do know, including witness statements, you know, people that were at the scene, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

[dragnet2]

Now KFI LA is reporting one of the top DA investigators involved has very close personal connections to the Fullerton Chief of Police.

Is this the investigation you're waiting to hear about before commenting?

Gezzzz

[Berlin_Freeper]

So you are saying there is an FBI investigation, correct?

Then I will wait for the FBI investigation.

How can you possibly have a problem with THAT?

Let me go a step further, but I warn you - you are not going to like this - if the FBI investigation uncovers evidence of a crime there will still be the matter of a court trial(s) and I will even be waiting for that.

However I know you seek something to sink your teeth into so let me offer you this:

You are very single minded with spamming me: “do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?”

So let me point out to you that a kick from 135 pound suspect would be just as powerful as a punch from a 200 pound person. And if the suspect was laying on the ground and resisting then he would most likely be doing so by kicking at the police.

As far as witnesses go, return to the video and watch that again.

You can’t see in any kind of detail what is really happening. That is why the main emphasis of the video is placed on the sound. The video is an example of how a person can claim to be a witness but not really see what is going on. If the witnesses you allude to have seen as much as this video shows - then they are not much in the way of witnesses and this actually strengthens why we should wait for the investigations.

[dragnet2]

So once again, based on what we do know, including witness statements, do you feel 6 large officers beating to death an unarmed, 135 pound suspect is reasonable?

Berlin Freeper stated: A kick from 135 pound suspect would be just as powerful as a punch from a 200 pound person. And if the suspect was laying on the ground and resisting then he would most likely be doing so by kicking at the police.

Witnesses can be heard on the video saying, 'Oh, my God," "They're freaking ruthless" and "What is that ... five cops and one guy."

Another witness Mark Turgeon says he saw an “out of control” beating from about 25 feet away. He said two officers were on top of Thomas, then two others came and shot him with an electronic stun gun. Two more officers showed up and started beating him with a flashlight, Turgeon said.

One of the officers involved has previously been involved in other, very questionable beatings.

The FBI has launched a formal Investigation into the Kelly Thomas Beating.

Also, after many demands, Fullerton Police are declining to release video they seized days ago.

All police officers involved have now been removed from duty.

It was reported by KFI, Los Angeles reported an attorney is offering over $900,000 on behalf of the City to family members.

Witnesses coming forward say they just continued beating the unarmed supect and tasing him when he was down, until he was unrecognizable. Bus riders and others say they watched a murder take place.

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I'm starting to really dislike you as a person, Mr. Berlin Freeper.

I plan on rubbing this in your face really hard and exposing you as a very questionable person.

Anyone that would support this type of behavior against one *unarmed* 135 pound individual, is alarming at best and your comments should be enough to make others recoil.

[dragnet2]

Berlin Freeper stated:

A kick from 135 pound suspect would be just as powerful as a punch from a 200 pound person. And if the suspect was laying on the ground and resisting then he would most likely be doing so by kicking at the police.

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July 30, 2011 Updated: 1:41 p.m.

Kelly Thomas' Dad: $900,000 offered to settle

An attorney representing the city on Friday offered $900,000 to resolve the civil side of the case, Ron Thomas said.

Kelly Thomas' Dad: $900,000 offered to settle

So what do ya think Mr. Berlin_Freeper?

Ya think this might be your first clue the cops are guilty of criminal and civil laws when 6 cops beat this 135 pound unarmed suspect to death?

[Berlin_Freeper]

"So what do ya think Mr. Berlin_Freeper?

Ya think this might be your first clue the cops are guilty of criminal and civil laws when 6 cops beat this 135 pound unarmed suspect to death?"

It sometimes happens that civil court cases get settled in this way.

That doesn't necessarily mean any policemen are "guilty", as you declare them.

There still has to be criminal charges, a trail. You know, those little things that make the legal system in America the greatest in the world. You might want to learn about it.

Obviously, a person who declares people guilty without a criminal trail is not worth spending my time having a discussion with. I don't consider you posses a maturity level, nor sufficient knowledge of the most basic aspects and principles of law to warrant any further discussion with. And that is putting it the nice way. LoL!

I did not declare the police innocent, in the way that you declare them guilty. I said I am waiting for the investigations. What you need to do is here is clear up to your fellow Americans why it is that you declare people "guilty" when there hasn't even been a trail.

In a perfect world, your shameful posts in this thread should disqualify you for life from ever serving on a jury.

There could be no reproach greater than that, for an American. And yet, there you are. Shameful.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Excuse me, trial.

It’s been a long day but I am glad I got you sorted for good.

Don’t expect me to waste any more time with you.

I doubt anyone else does. Why should I?

[Mears]

Do you refer to them as “pigs” too?

Did you have fun at Woodstock?

[Mears]

I’m on your side for what it’s worth.

Remember the pillorying of the Duke kids?

[Berlin_Freeper]

I am glad to hear it.

I am just tried of repeating myself for this spammer.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Excuse me, tired.

[dragnet2]

Ya think this might be your first clue the cops are guilty of criminal and civil laws when 6 cops beat this 135 pound unarmed suspect to death?

That doesn't necessarily mean any policemen are "guilty", as you declare them.

Many, you are one hard core, big government heavy badge.

My posts are based on multiple witness statements, video, audio, photographs, in addition to the fact that the suspect was *not* armed, the fact at least one of the officers have already been named in other questionable beating, in addition to the fact that witnesses all stated there were 5 to 6 cops beating one *unarmed* suspect with fists and flashlights...the fact they tased him multiple times, and the fact that suspect died as a result of this brutal beating, which witnesses described as not a beating, but a brutal murder.

Not to mention the fact that attorneys representing the City of Fullerton have *already* approached the Dad and offered him, $900,000.00 civil settlement to quickly make him go away.

____________________________________________________________ Yet when presented with these overwhelming ugly facts, you, Mr. Berlin_Freeper, still in support of these police officers, made this pathetic comment:

__________________________________________________________ "A kick from 135 pound suspect would be just as powerful as a punch from a 200 pound person. And if the suspect was laying on the ground and resisting then he would most likely be doing so by kicking at the police."

They'll be getting their criminal trial, Mr. Berlin_Freeper, but not doubt, they'll beg and attempt some type of plea bargain to avoid a trial which would be an utter disaster for them.

I'll continue to keep you posted on this Mr. Berlin_Freeper

[antceecee]

You won’t get an answer from the “LE is always right in anything they do” crowd. They will continue to defend LE officers regardless of the facts at hand. There are too many witnesses who have come forward and the tape and photos show that clearly the officers on the scene abused their authority. The city of Fullerton offering to settle is another telling admittance of guilt.

[Berlin_Freeper]

“I’ll continue to keep you posted on this Mr. Berlin_Freeper “

I am sure you will.

It’s not like a Cop Hater is ever going to spend a single minute posting about a police officer killed in the line of duty by a suspect resisting arrest and refusing to be taken in alive.