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Norway shooter supported abortion for disabled babies
LifeSite News ^ | 7/25/11 | JOHN-HENRY WESTEN

Posted on 07/28/2011 6:17:53 AM PDT by rhema

While the mainstream media attempts to paint Anders Behring Breivik, the terrorist bomber and shooter who killed over 76 people in Oslo last week, as a “fundamentalist Christian,” a 1,500 page document he wrote reveals not only that he did not consider himself a Christian believer, but that he was a mason, held such anti-Christian views as supporting abortion for disabled babies, and that he also hired a prostitute prior to his killing rampage.

The horrific death toll and monstrous methods employed by Breivik in his killing spree have been followed by outrageous attempts to paint him as a conservative Christian, a characterization that has the potential to lead to a backlash against faithful Christians in Europe and elsewhere.

But Breivik’s 1,500-page manifesto paints a picture of a hate-filled and confused man with little to no personal religious faith, who holds bizarre and contradictory views that most Christians would conceive as abhorrent, even as he shares some views in common with them.

Relevant to pro-life supporters, Breivik says that he supports abortion in cases of rape, and “if the baby has mental or physical disabilities.” (pg 1179) Breivik also notes that he hired a prostitute one week before his ‘mission’. (pg 1424). He also identifies himself as a Freemason (pg 1369).

Commenting on his own faith, Breivik writes:

Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian.

As Catholic commentator and media personality Michael Coren observes:

No intelligent person, and certainly no informed Christian, would regard this as the statement of a follower of Christ, let alone a fundamentalist follower. So why the hysterical boasts that he was a Christian? Obvious. It inflates the bubble of propaganda and lies. So different to when yet another Islamist attack occurs – four over the weekend by the way – and media does everything it can to distance the killers from Islam.

But how do we best respond to this hate-mongering? I’ll leave that last word to an esteemed colleague who has himself been unjustly accused of hate - Dr. Michael Brown. “Let us, then, who call ourselves conservative Christians, redouble our efforts to expose the folly of these false charges, overcoming evil with good and hatred with love, thereby proving ourselves to be genuine followers of Jesus.”

For a detailed analysis of the manifesto see the coverage by Massimo Introvigne, the head of the Center for Studies of New Religions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; breivik; christianity; prolife

Anders Behring Breivik in full masonic regalia.

1 posted on 07/28/2011 6:17:54 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
ooops the MSM proven wrong AGAIN> shocked...
2 posted on 07/28/2011 6:28:08 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: rhema

I’m confused about the Mason bit. Wasn’t George Washington and various other Founding Fathers Masons? I do know that growing up in pre-Vatican 2, Catholics were forbidden (and may still be) from joining the Masons on fear of excommunication. But I never got what was wrong with them. Can you help me out? Thanks!


3 posted on 07/28/2011 6:33:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: rhema

Obviously he was inspired by Sarah Palin........

/sarc


4 posted on 07/28/2011 6:38:05 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: miss marmelstein

“I never got what was wrong with them.”

Nothing, you have to be a Christian or a Jew to be a Mason.


5 posted on 07/28/2011 6:47:32 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS or RINO's.)
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To: rhema
Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian.

IOW, he claims to believe in Judeo-Christian values while not being personally religious.

Of itself, a perfectly reasonable position.

6 posted on 07/28/2011 6:48:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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It is a very short step from advocating the killing of disabled children to advocating the killing of your political enemies.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 6:49:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: rhema

Yeah, that’s a “conservative Christian.” Got it.


8 posted on 07/28/2011 6:52:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

I have some friends in NYC who are Masons. They’re all great people with all kinds of political points of view but are very into charitable giving and organizing. Some have told me they pray at meetings.

I grew up with the notion of amusing, out-of-control Shriners at hotels throwing plastic bags full of water out of windows and dancing a la the Shriner sequence in the movie and play “Bye Bye Birdie.” Not very edifying but very innocent and fun. The great silent comedian Harold Lloyd was a Mason his whole life.

Even if Catholics disavow them why would other Christians?! And what’s the connection between this evil nut and other Masons?


9 posted on 07/28/2011 7:03:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: rhema

He’s about as Christian as the trash bin in the corner of the foyer of a church.

As to the Masonic angle — be aware that Masonry in Europe is very different from Masonry in the US. Each reflects the heritage of its particular locale. In Europe, Masonry is very much about the sanctity of European ancestry and bloodlines.


10 posted on 07/28/2011 7:05:14 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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He’s better described as a standard neoconservative: ardently pro-Israel and anti-Muslim, etc. He also fits the neocon profile in religion e.g. we may not believe that stuff but advancement of a Christian-Judeo culture is good for society.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 7:10:52 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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What Does Masonry Teach About Christianity?

Where Do Masonry and Christianity Conflict? – Part 1

What Does the Masonic Lodge Teach Its Members About Jesus?

The Occult Influence in Freemasonry

12 posted on 07/28/2011 7:10:52 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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Thanks very much, rhema. I’ll read up.


13 posted on 07/28/2011 7:26:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: Captain Kirk

Needles in your ears.


14 posted on 07/28/2011 7:55:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you pet a tiny goose, you will feel a little down.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“And what’s the connection between this evil nut and other Masons?”

None, except in the minds of conspiracy theorists and one Catholic friend of mine.

Shriners probably give more and raise more for charity than any other group. Shriners Hospitals are free to the patients.


15 posted on 07/28/2011 2:26:33 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS or RINO's.)
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To: Captain Kirk
He’s better described as a standard neoconservative: ardently pro-Israel and anti-Muslim, etc. He also fits the neocon profile in religion e.g. we may not believe that stuff but advancement of a Christian-Judeo culture is good for society.
Show some intellectual honesty. You and I both know that neoconservatives support immigration and believe that the Muslim world will become peaceful and democratic. Breivik does not. He believes in a clash of civilizations, something actual neoconservatives abhor.
16 posted on 08/20/2011 9:28:27 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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