[silentknight]

As long as we all realize that there will NEVER be a bill brought up that any of us will support or like. NOTHING they can do will fix our problem.

1. They will not lower the ceiling
2. They WILL raise the ceiling
3. All cuts suggested in the most liberal or conservative bills are FAR FAR FAR - light years away - from what we need.
4. We will grow deeper in debt over the coming years - welllllll into the trillions of dollars.

Unless we have a total and complete collapse of the system or a total and complete revolution then we are going to lose the America we now know.

We already are losing the America we now know.

[jafojeffsurf]

We are on the same page, I think we should still stand for doing the right things but in reality there is a major crash/depression on its way. The question is how do we handle it with a police state of with people once again returning to Gad, Morals and hard work.

Of course one step in that process will be to get ride of the Washington crowd and holding them accountable for the lies and games.

Put on the seat belt this is going to be a ruff ride.

[boatbums]

Unless we have a total and complete collapse of the system or a total and complete revolution then we are going to lose the America we now know. We already are losing the America we now know.

Maybe we SHOULD lose the America we now know in order to get back to the America we once knew.