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To: STARWISE; SoConPubbie; Grizzled Bear; MrChips; RecoveringPaulisto; All

The talking point du jour is: you can’t change things when you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the govt. That’s everywhere.
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exactly. and they ALL are so brilliant and prescient,
that they KNOW we can’t win in 2012, unless we let Boehner’s plan pass.
(even though it INCREASES the National Debt by TRILLIONS,
and even the CNN poll shows an amazing 70% of ALL Americans, want a balanced budget and the spending cut!
the opportunity, is NOW!)

but they want the Boehner plan. to “save us” in 2012.
...just as they KNEW we couldn’t win in 2008,
unless we had a “moderate” candidate,
to avoid scaring off the independents.

...and even though i’m new, and many of these “wise ones” have old FR dates, they are ALL names i’ve never seen before. (and i was reading a lot before i joined.)
but they all agree with Rove, and Boehner, and Romney.

but people like STARWISE, SoConPubbie, and MANY others,
who agree with Rush and Mark Levin (true conservatives),
those people i see all the time... (just an observation.)

and they are RIGHT. for example SoConPubbie is CORRECT:

” We lose with it, period! “

Obama and the Dems rejected Cut Cap and Balance.
we should do NOTHING but wait for THEM to come up with a plan, which as Roger L Simon (PJ Media) shows, will crumble THEIR base and destroy them!


77 posted on 07/28/2011 10:20:01 PM PDT by Elendur (“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.” - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur
The talking point du jour is: you can’t change things when you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the govt. That’s everywhere.

They didn't try when they had 2/3 of the government. Why should we expect anything different now?

93 posted on 07/29/2011 7:52:58 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Elendur
The talking point du jour is: you can’t change things when you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the govt. That’s everywhere.

It's also a fact.

In fact, conservatives don't even control that much, as the House has three factions (Democrats, establishment Republicans and conservative Republican). The establishment Republicans have been able to appear non-existent in this fiasco, but the have had huge (perhaps controlling) input into this bill which has been presented as a take it or leave it option to conservatives.

Boehner, should not surprised that so many have opted to leave it.

There will be legislation passed by both houses with the support of the Democrats and the establishment Republicans, but the TEA party will be on the sidelines.

94 posted on 07/29/2011 8:01:11 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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