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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

A week or so ago there were rumors that the Capitol Hill leadership [both parties] were disgusted and frustrated about trying to negotiate with Obama, so they met in secret — sans Obama — to hash out a budget ceiling deal.

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I still maintain that, if the economy remains this bad by early next year, Obama will be forced to not seek a 2nd term — by the Dems. [Shades of LBJ]

They know they can’t win if unemployment is still well over 8%, the recession is continuing, etc. Their only ‘blessing’ at present is that inflation/interest rates have stayed low and off the radar.

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After seeing this thread, I am even more convinced that the Dems are trying to find a way to unseat Obama but retain the White House.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 6:15:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

“Dems are trying to find a way to unseat Obama but retain the White House.”

Impeachment.

Tie him to Operation Fast And Furious and he’s gone. Or any of several other outrages.


14 posted on 07/31/2011 6:22:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: TomGuy

I think there are a lot of games going on.

One game is that the short term deal ($1T now, $1.5T when it runs out) is advantageous to those worried about primary challengers, Republican and Democrat. I think Obama overplayed his hand when he demanded $1.2T in taxes which would have weakened Republican incumbents but not Democrat incumbents. The compromise let’s them both get past their primaries before voting again.


18 posted on 07/31/2011 6:25:15 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: TomGuy
That would account for Boener's 'walking out' and demanding ozero's presence/plan.

The wee wee'd usurper is inside smokin' crack while his fag hag ol' lady is wonderin', "WHY did I get myself into this $h!t and HOW do I get out?"

Ozero's jonesin' on no roun'baw.

27 posted on 07/31/2011 6:31:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TomGuy
After seeing this thread, I am even more convinced that the Dems are trying to find a way to unseat Obama but retain the White House.

I don't see that happening. 0bama may decide not to run, but 0bama's message is the same for any democRat - More taxes, more spending, more government.

And no one will say it more eloquently than 0bama.

40 posted on 07/31/2011 6:48:04 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: TomGuy

I’m starting to think that too. If Hillary! resigns, watch out.


41 posted on 07/31/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: TomGuy

The only reason inflation rates have stayed “low” is because they no longer include energy or food. Go to a grocery store and tell me we have no food inflation. Hamburger now sells for more a pound that New York strip steaks did 3 years ago.


43 posted on 07/31/2011 6:57:31 AM PDT by anoldafvet (18 months until we're rid of "The Boy Blunder".)
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To: TomGuy

“I still maintain that, if the economy remains this bad by early next year, Obama will be forced to not seek a 2nd term — by the Dems.”

I have been saying this for a while, except my view is that the Dems will have to pull the trigger during 4Q2011


58 posted on 07/31/2011 7:26:52 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: TomGuy

The Republicans are in a strong position, if they don’t choose to throw it away (as usual). If the House Repubs hold the line on the debt ceiling and force Dems to make cuts THIS YEAR on programs, it will set the various Dem constituencies fighting among each other over who deserves full funding, which would damage them into 2012.


79 posted on 07/31/2011 9:40:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: TomGuy

If the economy is this bad by early next year (it won’t be, it will be worse) NO DEMOCRAT will be able to win. They would be smarter to let him go down in crushing defeat, apologize for his existence and then gear up for the next election.


90 posted on 07/31/2011 12:56:48 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: TomGuy

Correction Suggested!!

Inflation is sky high and runaway! All because of HUSSEIN’s Destruction of AMERICA at the beheast of his controller, George Soros! Look at Gold, Silver and every other commodity pricing. We don’t have 9.4% unemployment, millions have given up looking, its more like 20-22%!!
Skilled workers and Management types over 45 have given up looking!! This is worse than Jimmy Carter by a factor of 100! And the GOP is sweeping this Horror under the rug!! The Debt Ceiling has already been raised under Obama Hussein three times by the Demorats before the Tea Party won the House! and we never hear by how much as well!! The debt ceiling has already been raised by most likely FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS under OBAMA HUSSEIN before this latest TWO and a Half TRILLION the Terrorist is demanding now! After the GOP cowars yet again, we will have a Debt Ceiling of SEVENTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!! Don’t argue with my math, I am an engineer who grew up with a slide rule, we work to 4-5 significant figures and that got us to the Moon and the Space Shuttle and Space Stations and Satellites, GPS, and Cell Phones! Now we cant figure out how to find a legitimate Birth Certificate or if Obama is really a Muslim in the Closet!
“May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from the Enemy within! For they are ten times more Dangerous than the Known Enemy outside the Gates!”*
* A semi quote from Thomas Jefferson


102 posted on 07/31/2011 2:30:22 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: TomGuy

I think they might run Hillary, or they might simply throw in the towel, live in ignominy for a couple decades, and then plan around a genuinely strong candidate. Either way, they are going to have to restructure and develop a new sort of candidate, preferably not one that is Socialist/Communist.


120 posted on 07/31/2011 6:51:35 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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