GOP on verge of huge, unprecedented political victory

The Washington Post ^ | 07/31/2011 | Greg Sargent

[MNJohnnie]

Could "Conservatives" stop emoting like silly children and think about this for a change?

My God it is the same silly crap around here no matter WHAT happens "WHAAA we didn't get 100% of what WE wanted. We got screwed! Whaaa"

We all ready won a major victory here. The last few weeks shows hat without the Tea Party the debt limit increase would have been passed without any attempt to rein in spending

The Tea Party has all ready won simply because the terms of the debate are now changed forever. It is no longer a question of cutting spending, it is now how to do it and how much to do it.

True we did not win a complete annihilating victory but this will be a long war. This is the Tea Party equivalent of Lexington/Concord.

The war on Federal Spending has now started.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” How was this a GOP victory??”

I guess you don’t drink enough..

[Starboard]

“D.C. isn’t interested in what is best for the country because D.C. long ago lost the ability to be interested in the individual and individual rights.”

DC politicians and the federal government are only interested in empire building and power grabs. What else would they do if they weren’t spending the peoples’ money?

[cashless]

Hey. Hey. Hey. S&P, Moodys, Fitch. These are the best ratings money can buy. These three agencies ALL receive money from the companies they give ratings on. THIS IS A HUGE MONUMENTAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. They failed to lower ratings on any financial institution during the days of financial meltdown UNTIL the day most of them filed bankruptcy. Downgrades = no more juicy fees. They do not downgrade the US gov’t because the managers and owners are ALL NORTHEAST IVY LEAGUE LIBERALS who are absolutely filthy rich, bankroll a$$holes like Schumer, Durban, Kerry, and Frank. Read Charlie Gasparino’s book that names the names and the firms involved in (my opinion) aiding and abetting in treason against the Republic.

[SaxxonWoods]

Any conservative upset about this deal doesn’t live in reality. Not because it’s a good deal, but because anyone familiar with D. C. knows that the deal will be a middle-of-the-road good-for-nothing mess. Besides, you can’t make a good deal with bad people.

The country is insolvent and has passed the tipping point. No one in Washington has the guts to do what needs to be done. So it’s going to be an economic collapse or a massive loss of private wealth through dilution of the currency.

There are no non-painful solutions left. The odd thing is that conservatives are looking to Republicans to solve the problem. I thought we knew better. Govt doesn’t solve problems, it makes them worse.

Conservatives vastly overestimate their own numbers, which leads to a lot of angst. There are no conservative Democrats, and the majority of Republicans are liberal to moderate. And you expect something good to come from that combination????

Insane.

[GAB-1955]

Sorry - going Galt is still going to be a minority compared to the economy as a whole. I am not sure it's a good idea; I am going to work with my church.

[bert]

.....baseline budget automatically forecasting an 8 % growth ...

This is very interesting. Where did you get the number 8% ?

That is in excess of 7% which is what I considered the maximum tolerable inflation rate. Here it is popping up as 8%. It is the rate at which devaluation will be compounded and the economy will be inflated. At that rate the 14 trillion of fixed obligations will only be 7 billion in 10 years.

Also as inflated wages rise, the marginal taxes paid on those wages will increase.

The compounded inflation and inflation revenue increase may irradicate the debt in today’s %% in 9 years.

Therefore, the negotiated savings will be real less the devaluation

[freedomfiter2]

Wow, they agreed to raise the national debt by 2.4 trillion in exchange for empty promises.

[cashless]

Budget? What freaking budget? There has not been a budget in 821 days. Dims have not submitted one. Obama’s budget was such a disaster and provided no cover for the Rat party and was defeated 97-0. Paul Ryan's budget was never acted on by the Senate to my knowledge. The country is running on that marvelous, major debt slayer Continuing Resolution negotiated by the eighth dwarf, Weepy. I can only imagine how much Preparation H we will need for the 2012 budget due Oct.1 and all they are doing in Congress is approving the baseline increase. Republicans need to vote NO on any 2012 authorization until the President or the Senate submits something ON PAPER.

[redgolum]

Most people want to feel part of a team. Few want to admit that the game is rigged.

We (the world) practiced Usury, and now we get to go through the results of living off of borrowed money. It will not be pretty.

[redgolum]

Good idea.

And remember, Galt had a deus ex machina force field. Real people don't.

[Gene Eric]

>> but anyone who thinks the Dems “won” anything on this needs to reexamine.

No claim made the Dems “won” anything other than relieving Obama of economic responsibilities. The GOP rushed this deal through to accommodate Obama’s schedule despite his soon-to-be-forgotten childish antics .

The GOP punted instead of driving the hard, necessary bargain that would involve changing course. Unfortunately, while staging these stately deals of epic proportions, the GOP ridiculed and ignored the advocates of real change, the TEA members.

In other words, we lost, and Obama’s free to campaign.

[Incorrigible]

You said it all

[Clintonfatigued]

I think we did OK in view of the obsticles.

[Iron Munro]

"Ask and ye shall receive"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwC39LyUFw&feature=related

Whoa! - That sure does qualify!

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Bingo. We’re screwed.

[ripley]

Shull Bit.

[Mike Darancette]

Ask yourself, did the Democrats get a deal as good for them as that which they had negotiated with the Speaker over a week ago? I would say no.

[Cobra64]

It's a trap!

[Sola Veritas]

They will say it is a “GOP” victory until after it is passed and then it will be lauded by the MSM as “a brilliant deal brokered by Obama.”