Posted on 08/02/2011 3:11:40 PM PDT by Sopater
Charter schools are publicly funded schools organized by private groups. Generally they receive an an amount per-pupil from the county/state, but they do not receive funding for buildings or other costs. Charter schools can have a theme, such as languages or arts, or they can have standard curriculum but (in general) smaller classes, strong emphasis on academics, and more parent involvement than a regular public school.
Cyber schools come in public and private versions. You can order a full, computer-based curriculum from several private providers; these will have all lessons online or on DVD, and generally provide teacher support, grading, and other services. There are also public cyber-school options in many states, in which the standard public school curriculum is provided, and students do most work on the computer, submitting it for grading by government-employed teachers.
Harder to control and indoctrinate the next generation,
even when you control the curricula,
without a “teacher” at the front of the class.
In a general response to this school board,
I’d say the HSLDA needs to step in and “school” them.
Why can't the Public Schools just be more tolerant? ;)
I guess I had the impression homeschooling was about parents ‘teaching’ the classes. Now it seems much is done on-line with parents assisting, and determining the hours and times for this.
The girls have provided computers I understand and is part of a network of Charter schools across Pa. They have orientation ahead and this particular charter school graduated 300 last year. D.I. LAW said they spent weeks and weeks examining these schools before they chose the one they selected. ...primarily for it's focus on academics and parental involvement and strong history of solid ratings by those who “grade” these schools.
translation:
homeschooling is out of our control and we can not force feed bias.
bottom line:
teachers continue to fear for jobs due to superior performance of home schoolers.
the repetition is big lie theory in action.
the socialization BS was disproven YEARS ago but the unionistas still repeat it.
Dang Mongolians.
Thank you very much. I already mentioned to my daughter in law about possibly taking the girls on a tour of my workplace. But we are just beginning to discuss the possibilities of where I might be helpful.
My son and daughter-in-law are very independant parents and generally share with family their decisions after the fact. So this is news to me just these past couple days.
I have offered my help but am determining just exactly what sort of homeschooling they are doing. It seems there is everything out there from cyber-schools to Charter schools etc. From what she has shared this seems as a Charter school.
“. . . enjoy the benefits a of well-planned educational program and the socialization . . . “
They admit that they’re making Socialists out of humans.
The root of the problem is the socialized school system. We need to do away with single payer schooling. The arguments for socialized schooling are the same as the arguments the leftists use for promoting socialized medicine. Yet many people who reject those arguments about health care, embrace them for schooling.
Homeschoolers should be in the lead of the effort to eliminate socialized schooling.
Charter schools are not homeschooling in any form - they are schools with buildings. Cyber schools are the primary/secondary equivalent of University of Phoenix: the student is enrolled in either the public or private school, just has he would be in a school with a physical plant.
HSLDA does not consider government-run cyber-schools to be “homeschooling,” even though the student is at home, because all the requirements are controlled by the state. The states also consider such students “public schooled,” just like those who attend school in a building.
Hummm-mmm.....so the Charter schools must meet the requirements of the state. But don’t “Homeschoolers” also have to meet certain requirments?
The girls will not be meeting in any building, but take classes over the computer. I guess I have to learn more about the differences. But they all seem to have to meet certain requirements.
Yes
in favor of Internet schooling - you could accomplish the same things with home terminals.
No. I have been involved in "distance learning" from both ends. It's a poor substitute for the real thing. Education, particularly education beyond very focused technical instruction, is a very human process with emotional as well as intellectual aspects. Internet or other long distance communication is very sterile compared to in-person communication. It's much easier to form a human relationship with the person in the same room than with a person on the other end of a telephone line.
Depending on the state, families legally identified as “homeschooling” have various requirements. In Oklahoma, the requirement was that if a representative of the state turned up on the doorstep, you would have to demonstrate that your children were being educated. (I always hoped my children would STOP demonstrating their education long enough to chew their food and take a shower ;-).
In North Carolina, homeschools register with the state, and are required, on request, to produce an attendance record, a vaccination record, and a current-year standardized test record for each student.
I believe you mentioned Pennsylvania, which has among the most onerous requirements of all the states for homeschooling. It sounds as if your grandchildren will be doing “public school at home,” which is perfectly fine if that’s what the family wants. However, it is not “homeschooling” as legally defined by the states or generally understood by the public.
Our home-schooled oldest daughter entered college at 16 and is currently working on her engineering PhD.
This is some of the information I’ve retreived while looking into the differnces, which is helping me understand better these differences.
Perhaps the most significant difference between online charter schools and homeschooling is funding.... Students who attend online ‘charter schools’ are legally considered public school students, because taxpayers are funding their education.
Parents who ‘homeschool’ their children typically purchase the curriculum they use to guide their children’s education. Also, homeschooled students are not subjected to federal testing requirements used to evaluate the success rates of public schools and charter schools. (Which gives the parents control over what they teach.)
Despite these key differences, school days for online charter school and homeschooled students can appear strikingly similar..... Both sets of students complete their schoolwork in their homes.
However, an online charter school’s scheduling depends on whether it is a ‘cyber or virtual charter school’...... According to The Center for Education Reform, ‘cyber charter schools ‘closely resemble correspondence classes in that the work can be completed at the student’s convenience.
‘Virtual charter schools,’ however, require students to log into their online classes at specific times, much like attending a class in a traditional school.’
Therefore, ONLY parents of cyber charter school and homeschooled students determine the child’s daily schedule.
Although online ‘charter schools’ employ licensed public school teachers to evaluate students’ progress and answer questions, parents must dedicate several hours each school day to keeping their children on track, just like homeschooling parents.
I have to disagree with this from what I've investigated so far. The schooling my grandgirls will be involved with have frequent field trips with classmates....orientations etc. where these kids do meet one another and form lasting friendshipss thru their instuctions....this also coming from the students themselves. Additionally, they will continue to be involved in the school activities they were involved with prior, thus maintaining their relationships already established.
One other thing...I think it’s important as well the relationship the parents have with their children. I know that my son and his wife have been actively involved with their children from day one and completely understand their responsibilty for their children’s “overall” welfare.
Some of the reasons for them going the direction they now do is not being able to get the co-operation of public school teachers to even acknowledge their e-mails....let alone finding tutors when they felt it was necessary. An example was when my granddaughter was seriously hurt in a car accident....it took two months of scrapping with the school system to even consider tutoring her at home, and finally my daughter-in-law took on that responsibility and taught her daughter herself. BTW as a result she excelled and won a school scholarship. But the school failed miserably in showing any concern....it was a battle on a constant to get them to co-operate.
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