Posted on 08/04/2011 5:27:20 PM PDT by billflax
In America’s civic religion of political correctness, government is god, universal suffrage is holy writ and collectivized, and multicultural egalitarianism is heaven. Popular culture worships Utopia as we spiral upside down. Our genesis lay in negating the tyranny of taxes without representation. Today’s oppression stems from interests being represented without paying taxes.
Over 60% of federal outlays involve wealth redistributions and this will relentlessly rise as baby boomers retire. Since the ’60s we’ve wasted $16 trillion pushing water uphill to fight poverty. We’ve expended more on welfare than the national net worth of any other nation save Japan. Poverty remains, but even those furnishing food stamps in lieu of paychecks fashion the latest technological accoutrements.
Nonetheless, President Barack Obama instituted a relative “supplemental poverty measure” to justify additional handouts. Frederic Bastiat saw clearly, “The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.” Washington’s primary purpose has become paying people not to produce. Meanwhile, PhD economists are befuddled why production, as measured by sputtering GDP, stalls.
Many millions more contort to government spigots as employees, contractors or lobbyists. Others remain reliant on the plethora of subsidies, favorable regulations or pet political projects. Washington has supplanted Wall Street as America’s financial nexus.
Too many Americans affix themselves to the government axle like bicycle spokes. Washington’s wheels spin crushing the unconnected while political favorites arc to new heights. As politicians gain power by promising pork and stroking covetousness the inevitable demise of democracy becomes imminent.
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It’s a symbiotic relationship. The Democrat politicians supply benefits to the voters, who in turn vote Democrat to show gratitude for the benefits. Then Democrat pols increase benefits to voters, who in turn vote for more Dems.
Question is, how do we break the cycle?????
I am rather new to this idea, but I think it is quite legitimate. Seriously, your goodies should be reduced. Could this ever happen or is it constitutionally impossible? I’m sure that I speak for many when I say how disgusted I am at seeing my older parent WORK to support leeches...............my disgust level is bottomless.
The zero liability voter is the base of the Democrat Party.
“We’ve expended more on welfare than the national net worth of any other nation save Japan. Poverty remains, but even those furnishing food stamps in lieu of paychecks fashion the latest technological accoutrements.”
Well, if you pay for aka reward something, YOU GET MORE OF IT! (Not directed and the Freeper or author, but rather any economically illiterate leftists who drop by.)
IOW, if you truly care about people, the WORST thing you can do is subsidize/reward bad life choices aka most poverty (with some rare exceptions).
“Nonetheless, President Barack Obama instituted a relative ‘supplemental poverty measure’ to justify additional handouts.”
Some people’s instinct will be to say that’s because he’s economically illiterate. He (or his handlers) are not. They know EXACTLY what they are doing, and a desperate beholden poverty class is essential to them getting what they want!
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will always have the support of Paul.
This applies to government employyes as well.
The founders should have written some kind of voting limitation into the Constitution, but they never foresaw the income tax and the welfare state.
But what happens when you rob Peter enough, that you can’t extract any more from him? Paul only gets to sit on his ass as long as Peter still gets off HIS ass, works and pays taxes. Even the dopiest liberal should understand that the “free” flat screen TVs and “free” cell phones and “free” housing comes from Peter’s labor. Kill Peter, and there is no more “free” cable TV no matter how loud Paul screams for it.
They essentially did with the requirement that one own property in order to vote. Granted, there are quite a few renters paying high income taxes, if instituted today it would eliminate an overwhelming portion of the freeloader vote.
once upon a time only property owners voted
When the numbers of those WHO DO NOT PAY rise sufficiently, and they chose instead to vote to take their income from the productive people WHO DO PAY, the society is on a fast track to self-destruction.
Letting everyone vote is a HUGE MISTAKE.
Only those who own property should vote.
Those who wish to vote should earn that privilege by hard work and prudent investment.
bump.
Every so often this comes up. My questions are:
1. How could this possibly become a reality? What, are you going to put it on a ballot? Prepare for a tsunami of ads and 98% turnout. Granted, that level of participation might not be a bad thing, but how many of those extra voters are going to show up mad as hell and ready to blow the party that suggested legal disenfranchisement to hell?
Hint: It won’t be the Democrats that suggest this idea.
2. What, exactly, is “property?” A house? A car? Anything over x amount of value?
3. Let’s say you were one of those that didn’t own “property” and were therefore a prime candidate for disenfranchisement. How willing would you be to pay taxes to a government you have no say in the running of?
Because I don’t own any land. I don’t own my own house. I have my car and my stuff, but that’s about it. And if I’m going to lose my vote because of it, no way in HELL do I give so much as a dime in taxes.
The problem is when people no longer have any pride or realize that there is something better than the sustenance level existence that the fed gov provides them with.
Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!
Our future and the only way we are going to get the debt under control.
Otherwise, we are doomed to failure and failure will be worse than anything that we can imagine.
I’ve suggested for years that those who are net takers from the government (not necessarily SS since there have supposedly been contributions for the benefits) are essentially wards of the state... and we should treat them like it. Their food stamps should be tied to the food pyramid—no more grocery carts full of twinkles and ho-hos. They should have as much say in the running of the country as our children have in the say of the running of our homes... next to none. They should be treated as children and educated to leave the nest as soon as they mature.
Those who should vote are those with skin in the game... the net tax contributors.
It’s a dream... but a nice one.
“Today’s oppression stems from interests being represented without paying taxes.”
Duh, it is because we are a democracy now instead of the Republic we were intended to be at the founding. The founders had already learned that democracy is nothing but a rabble where the masses can learn to vote themselves a raise from the treasury. The treasury is funded by those who have land and things and pay taxes.
There are no longer enough persons motivated to aspire to wealth or even betterment and the ones in the taking class breed more of their kind like rats. DemoRATS and and the RepubliRATS try to catch their attention with the paying class’ money.
We, the paying class, are simply fukt’d. The only thing we are doing now is fighting a holding action to make it harder for what we have to simply be confiscated.
The good times are over, the game is through. We are fool enough to hope and work. The Republic is dead and will not return without war but that victory is even doubtful.
Until there is nothing there will be no Republic to grow again.
Yeah, they did. That's why there isn't some "right to vote" garbage in the constitution.
The Constitutional Convention Debates - Qualifications for Suffrage (August 7, 10)
The ignorant and the dependent can be as little trusted with the public interest.
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