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Govt officials: US expecting S&P downgrade -- based on "serious mistake" in analysis*
ABC News ^ | 5 Aug 2011

Posted on 08/05/2011 5:04:57 PM PDT by mandaladon

Two government officials tell ABC News that the federal government is expecting and preparing for bond rating agency Standard & Poor’s to downgrade the rating of US debt from its current AAA value.

Official reasons given, one official says, will be the political confusion surrounding the process of raising the debt ceiling, and lack of confidence that the political system will be able to agree to more deficit reduction. A source says Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal will be part of the reason cited. The official was unsure if the bond rating would be AA+ or AA.

A third official says that S&P made a "serious mistake" in its analysis, "based on flawed math and assumptions," so the Obama administration is pushing back. But even though "S&P has acknowledged its numbers are wrong, it's unclear what they're going to do.," the official said.

S&P refused to comment.

Because of the pushback, the Obama administration is preparing for the downgrade but is not 100% positive it’s going to happen, officials said. And if the downgrade does happen, officials are not sure when it will happen.

Before ratings agencies issue a downgrade, there is often some back and forth that goes on behind the scenes. Treasury Department officials have been making the case for months that S&P should not downgrade US debt.

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To: mandaladon
A source says Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal will be part of the reason cited.

I cannot imagine S&P getting involved in partisan political finger-pointing, especially given how much back-and-forth negotiating goes on for these budget deals.

I think it is more likely that the medium (ABC News) is the culprit.

If the media is slanted, it does not matter who the source is. Some wino on K Street could be the "source."

Most likely, the White House is the source, or the overactive imagination of some ABC News editor.

41 posted on 08/05/2011 5:52:50 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Elendur

and certainly Obama and Reid KNEW it before the bill passed.

and i’ll bet money, that BOEHNER AND MCCONNELL did too !!!


42 posted on 08/05/2011 5:53:07 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Fox is saying it’s done.


43 posted on 08/05/2011 5:54:37 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Reuters -
U.S. loses AAA credit rating from S&P
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2759333/posts


44 posted on 08/05/2011 5:55:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
first debt downgrade in US history

Another first for the first (half black) president. Not counting Bill Clinton.

45 posted on 08/05/2011 5:55:16 PM PDT by McGruff (I am Sarah Palin)
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To: catnipman

And “pushback” means Obama has released the Federal fascist hounds to threaten and intimidate S&P to get them to “change” their minds. You know, just like in Venezuela!
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and Italy.
the Italian police raided the offices of Moody’s and Standard & Poors.


46 posted on 08/05/2011 5:56:00 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: McGruff
first debt downgrade in US history

Hope.......Change.......

47 posted on 08/05/2011 6:08:55 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

CHANGE you can believe in

He did promise to fundamentally change the economy

YES WE CAN!


48 posted on 08/05/2011 6:13:36 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Jim Robinson
Treasury Department officials have been making the case for months that S&P should not downgrade US debt.

The above proves this was an issue long before the Republicans held out for spending decreases.

Furthermore, which would cause you to be questioned: (1) Getting control of your spending, or (2) Asking for more credit so you could continue your big-spending ways?

Obama, of course, knew this was coming, as the above quote indicates, and picked this debt ceiling media fight on purpose in order to shift the blame or at least to share it.

49 posted on 08/05/2011 6:20:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: mandaladon

Trust in the Lord with all your heart.
He’s the only one who can save us now.


50 posted on 08/05/2011 6:27:52 PM PDT by deltaromeo11 (Luke 16:31, Gen 7:16)
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To: mandaladon

Yeah, a “serious mistake” in analysis of the ballots when Americans voted in 2008


51 posted on 08/05/2011 6:51:54 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error")
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To: All; mandaladon
Will Geithner survive? He said it wouldn't happen.

"Cut, Cap & Balance" with it's $4 trillion on "cuts" would've given the ratings agencies what they were looking for.

Heck of a job Reid, Obama!

52 posted on 08/05/2011 7:23:59 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Get behind ONE "Balanced Budget Amendment" (BBA))
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To: newzjunkey

I heard Geithner’s on his way out anyway so it likely doesn’t make much difference to him. Trouble is this will play out in states and communities who get federal funding....trickle down and all that.


53 posted on 08/05/2011 7:55:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

>> Idiots! On both sides!

As far as I’m concerned, they’re all on the other side save the TEA team.


54 posted on 08/05/2011 7:58:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: Popman
The boat is taking on water and this deal just slowed the sinking by a few minutes.


55 posted on 08/05/2011 8:07:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: mandaladon

OBAMA IS A LYING MARXIST

56 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: mandaladon

Americans can put up with a lot of things, but humiliation isn’t one of them.


57 posted on 08/05/2011 8:24:32 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Liberal Era is over.)
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To: Elendur
Idiots! On both sides!
yep.
but, Moody’s and Standard and Poors both said it wasn’t the debt ceiling. it was the spending.
they said it would required cuts of at least 4 trillion to avoid the downgrade.

IF Boehner had stood his ground, and gotten even that minimum,
there wouldn’t be a downgrade at all.
(and probably not the Stock crash and gold boom this week.)

He could have helped save America. Instead he sold it down the river.

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Republicans were afraid to stick to their guns and insist on real cuts because they were afraid they would get blamed.

Looks like they are going to get stuck with the blame anyway - If Americans are stupid enough to swallow the Obama BS blame game.

58 posted on 08/05/2011 10:39:14 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: skr
Friday night is when all the week's bad news gets posted...

obama the narcissist, cannot except reality...
59 posted on 08/05/2011 11:03:20 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Perry/West 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes! Yes! Let’s put all of our bets on Obamaponzinomics, since that bastards track record is so good. Bush’s fault, S & P’s fault, Tea Party’s fault, Conservatives fault, negotiation time length’s fault, Rich People’s fault,......it is everyone’s fault except the people in this damn administration who has the decision-making authority and responsibility. There is not an honest man in entire bunch.


60 posted on 08/05/2011 11:08:02 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Haw)
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