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Obama officials attack S&P's credibility after downgrade
reuters ^ | 8/5/2011 | Glenn Somerville and Rachelle Younglai

Posted on 08/05/2011 10:45:42 PM PDT by tobyhill

The Obama administration attacked the credibility of the analysis underlying Standard & Poor's decision to downgrade the United States' top credit rating on Friday, saying it had found a $2 trillion error.

S&P was forced to remove the number from its analysis after Treasury officials discovered that the rating agency's estimates of the government's discretionary spending was $2 trillion too high, sources familiar with the discussions said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aa; aaa; aaplus; creditrating; cutcapbalance; downgrade; geithner; obama; obamanomics; rating; sandpfault; spfault; standardpoors; treasury; usa2aa
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To: kearnyirish2

Reality has set in; it doesn’t matter what “they” say.


Exactly. And the more they protest , the more people are going to see what they’re trying to do. Their propagand is running out of steam.


21 posted on 08/05/2011 11:06:58 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Steel Wolf
The con job in the White House finally got called out.

Obama just made the history books for being the first President of our downgrade.

22 posted on 08/05/2011 11:10:16 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill
Obama is a delusional idiot.

When Clinton left office, the debt to GDP ratio was 57%. When Bush left office (eight years later), the ratio was 69%. After 2.5 years of the Obama/Mugabe Rule the ratio is 97%. How is that S&Ps fault?

Obama = EPIC FAIL.

23 posted on 08/05/2011 11:10:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: tobyhill

Watch Obama send his union thug buddies over to S&P to try to “Reason” with them. Obama just can’t stand the fact that socialism does NOT work..he just can’t get it through his head


24 posted on 08/05/2011 11:10:52 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Steel Wolf

“Our debt to income ration is preposterous. “

What is the ratio? I want to see if they can buy a house.


25 posted on 08/05/2011 11:12:03 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (I like it that FR still spell checks "obama")
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To: tobyhill

With the constant lying from this WH and all the constant revisions to economic data, I’m much more inclined to believe S&P than the government.


26 posted on 08/05/2011 11:13:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tobyhill
$2 Trillion is peanuts compared to the size of the problem over the next 10 years.

This is literally the turning point. It's the end of the world as we know it. Nothing will be the same after this. Nothing.

A disaster of biblical proportions.

27 posted on 08/05/2011 11:13:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tobyhill

28 posted on 08/05/2011 11:13:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: tobyhill

If I am remembering correctly, hasn’t this administration attacked S&P in the past? Perhaps this is a case of you F with the Bull you get the horn?


29 posted on 08/05/2011 11:14:24 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: tobyhill

Well everyone said his presidency would be historic :(


30 posted on 08/05/2011 11:15:15 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: kearnyirish2
"They probably said the same thing in Kenya when the whites left...and the trains haven’t moved since."

That is not at all true, in any way.

Kenya is a mostly civilized country on the British model.

You MUST be talking about Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

31 posted on 08/05/2011 11:16:20 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: unkus

Not so surprising that they would argue with the rating agency...instead of making a commitment to spend less—tho I don’t trust either the rating agency (they let Freddie and Fannie go on for years) or the White hut.


32 posted on 08/05/2011 11:17:08 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: unkus

Even worse; the “old news” that they had pressured the rating agencies to keep the AAA rating long after it was merited.

I don’t invest in the markets; in my area, you’d be better off investing in the “flea market” economy which is so prevalent here (if I had anything to invest).


33 posted on 08/05/2011 11:18:00 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Chgogal

Good site that shows exactly who has spent what. It doesn’t yet show the $3 trillion debt ceiling increase just passed.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np


34 posted on 08/05/2011 11:19:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill

The S&P ate my homework.


35 posted on 08/05/2011 11:20:51 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Chgogal
Bush added $4.9 trillion to the debt in 8 years and with this debt ceiling increase Obama will have spent more in two and a half years as Bush spent in 8 years with no signs of slowing down.
36 posted on 08/05/2011 11:23:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: Mariner

I’ve had family there in a military capacity prior to and during the Somalia war; they were there because the Brits had no military commitment to keep the Fuzzies from killing them on the Kenyan side of the border.

I am NOT talking about Zimbabwe/Rhodesia; that is more akin to Angola. Those Africans are dying because God let them choose bad leaders (the whole “free will” thing)...

Kenya/Uganda had a fairly friendly parting (unless you were Asian - in which case you couldn’t take anything with you - like Freddie Mercury’s family from Zanzibar).

There is a reason why you aren’t posting from Kenya - if they even have “internet”. - just admit you’d never live there. I live outside Newark, NJ - I know what happened when the educated people (black,brown,white) fled.


37 posted on 08/05/2011 11:27:32 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: bushwon

Not so surprising that they would argue with the rating agency...instead of making a commitment to spend less—


That’s their modus operendi (sp). They never fully address a problem.


38 posted on 08/05/2011 11:27:46 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: CJ Wolf
Fannie Mae's got your back, jack. When you can print money, you can buy every house in the country.

Of course, the houses will be worth less than the materials they're made with by the time we run out of toner for the printing presses, but that's probably part of the Obama plan, too.

39 posted on 08/05/2011 11:27:52 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: kearnyirish2

Apparently when the international bankers funded his election, they were OK; now when nature reacts, they’re not.

God bless General Franco.


We might be thinking of General Pinochet before this goes on too much longer.


40 posted on 08/05/2011 11:29:43 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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