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Pawlenty: Raise Social Security retirement for young (yes to illegals, global warming, higher taxes)
UPI ^ | 2011-08-06

Posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:01 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

MIAMI, Aug. 4 (UPI) -- GOP presidential hopeful and ex-Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said he would tell young workers they'd have to work to an older age to collect Social Security.

People born after 1959 now have to wait till age 67 to collect full benefits.

"If you're on the program now or anywhere near eligibility, you shouldn't have your benefits impacted," Pawlenty told The Miami Herald during a campaign stop.

"But if you're in the next generation, we're telling you now, with several decades of warning, we're going to gradually raise the retirement age over time. If you're lower income or middle income, you should still get your cost-of-living adjustment. But in the future, if you're real wealthy, we're going to have to slow that down or take it away."

The Social Security Administration estimated in May that under current law the 76-year-old social-insurance program's trust funds would be exhausted in 25 years and need $6.5 trillion in additional money over 75 years -- roughly $87 billion a year -- to pay all scheduled benefits.

In addition, President Barack Obama and Republicans are discussing changes in the formula for Social Security cost-of-living adjustments long sought by economists.

Pawlenty, who is trailing in the polls and lost his top campaign policy adviser this week, also told the newspaper the Department of Homeland Security's E-Verify federal database to ferret out illegal immigrants should not be mandatory for private employers.

His position conflicts with a Republican-sponsored bill that would force all employers to verify the legal immigration status of their workers.

"We should say to private employers, if you knowingly hire illegal immigrants, there's going to be a consequence," he told the newspaper. "I underline the word 'knowingly.' And you make available a system like E-Verify. I don't know that you need to require them to use it."

E-Verify supporters argue the free electronic system, mandatory for most federal contractors but voluntary for other employers, would eliminate any doubt about workers' legal status.

Pawlenty would not say if he thought human activities had anything to do with climate change.

"Well, there's definitely climate change," he said. "The more interesting question is how much is a result of natural causes and how much, if any, is attributable to human behavior. And that's what the scientific dispute is about."

The scientific consensus is that climate change is in large part caused by human activities and may to some extent be irreversible.

And Pawlenty said he saw no inconsistency when he bashed Obama's stimulus plan as governor in 2009 yet took the money at the same time.

"If the federal government is dumb enough to give it to us, we'll be smart enough to take it," he said


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; agw; climatechange; globalwarming; illegals; liberalfascism; medicare; pawlenty; pawlenty4fascism; pawlenty4obama; rino; scumbag; socialism; socialsecurity; traitor; vichy
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FUTP!!!
1 posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:07 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Yea, forget this. Give me an option to opt out of this ponzi scheme instead of robbing me for another decade.


2 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:16 AM PDT by Protoss
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To: rabscuttle385

He sounds like any other RINO turd.Forget him.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 10:46:48 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: rabscuttle385
We don't need progressives who make distinctions between the "Wealthy" and "others" in the Republican Party. Leave that to the socialist Democrat Party. Hey Timmy distinctions based on wealth are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
4 posted on 08/06/2011 10:49:59 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: rabscuttle385

This guy is a moron,a complete moron.Just who the hell does he think is going to vote for him? Democrats?I bet he tanks even more now if thats possible.


5 posted on 08/06/2011 10:52:50 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Little Tim has spent to much time in the gaga room.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 11:02:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: rabscuttle385

And the MSM are shocked that YawnPlenty isn’t taken more seriously as a candidate.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 11:05:33 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: rabscuttle385

T-Paw is not a RINO. He’s telling the truth: there is no mathematical way to prevent SS from going broke without raising withholding or raising the retiremrnt age or means testing. Try to find a single Dem who proposes _any_ entitlement cut.

Pawlenty opposes any sort of AGW regulation (not the most artfully spoken above).

This will be the nastiest presidential campaign in history. The Rats will stop at nothing to try to make it about the Rep candidate.

Ok so he’s boring. In an ultra-nasty race boring is *good*: It means the election will stay focused on Obama’s record. Pawlenty has the best chance to beat Bammie because there us nothing in his closet to attack.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 11:12:56 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: rabscuttle385

I’d like SS benefits to be calculated based on the taxes paid by your children.


9 posted on 08/06/2011 11:13:12 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: rabscuttle385

Why in hell are illegals drawing social security? Now that I think about it, I think the answer is Jimmy Peanut Carter.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 11:21:34 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: Gideon7

He’s a dud and a vajayjay repubic, and he has about as much chance of being elected president as my dog does.

As far as SS goes, doesn’t matter, this society has hit the end of the line, and that is all there is to it.


11 posted on 08/06/2011 11:24:10 AM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: Gideon7
T-Paw is not a RINO. He’s telling the truth: there is no mathematical way to prevent SS from going broke without raising withholding or raising the retiremrnt age or means testing. Try to find a single Dem who proposes _any_ entitlement cut.

Pawlenty, who is trailing in the polls and lost his top campaign policy adviser this week, also told the newspaper the Department of Homeland Security's E-Verify federal database to ferret out illegal immigrants should not be mandatory for private employers.

Either you did not read the full article, or you are full of it!
12 posted on 08/06/2011 11:32:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: rabscuttle385
lost his top campaign policy adviser this week,

Judging by his statements, it is hard to believe he ever had one.

13 posted on 08/06/2011 11:37:39 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rabscuttle385

Nonsense.
Pawlenty seems to be dancing around a little bit about illegals, but his comments about “climate change” are innocuous at best. Nothing to see here.

What bothers me is Pawlenty’s apparent support for “means testing” social security. People who have worked their entire lives and been responsible enough to build a nest egg should subsidize the irresponsible people who lived their lives high on the hog with toys and vacations and didn’t leave themselves two nickels to rub together? I don’t think so.


14 posted on 08/06/2011 11:49:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SoConPubbie

No ad-hominem attacks please per FR policy.

Read it again. T-Paw is against yet another federal mandate being shoved down the throats of employers. He likes the idea of E-Verify (I do too). But forcing it goes against his small government instincts so he’s ambivalent.

(I do wish he’d stop doing his ‘on one hand on the other hand’ thing because it just creates ammunition for attacks like the bogus headline in this post.)


15 posted on 08/06/2011 11:49:14 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: rabscuttle385

In this culture what does a 60 something do for a living?


16 posted on 08/06/2011 11:54:45 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Pawlenty’s a gorebot and a loser.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 11:55:08 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
I’d like SS benefits to be calculated based on the taxes paid by your children.

Why not eliminate the government middle-man and have children just directly help their parents if they need it.

The annual gift exclusion is $13,000 per giver and givee combination.

1 Child (C1), with a spouse (CS)
2 Elderly Parents (F) and (M)

In every calendar year...
C1 can give F $13,000
CS can give F $13,000
C1 can give M $13,000
CS can give M $13,000

Elderly Father and Mother could receive up to $52,000 per year from 2 other people and not pay income tax. Children would not be able to deduct this money, it's post-tax for them. But there need not be double-taxation for the parents do not have to pay tax on the money received.

Of course this is more than most could or would need to give; it's just to illustrate what's possible and to still avoid double-taxation.

Doing the right thing and taking care of one's family would completely obviate the need for Social Security.

Every employee pays 6.2% (4.2% for 2011 - as if that's going to stay there) on their gross wages up to $106,800 per year. The EMPLOYER MATCHES that.

If we phase out SS, we can phase out the tax. That's an 8.4% (actually at the normal rates 12.4%) raise with NO ADDITIONAL cost to your employer.

Take 12.4% of your GROSS pay. At $40,000 per year, that's $4,960. At $80,000 per year, that's $9,920. That could go right to Mom and Dad with no sacrifice at all. And if we're going to be elderly Mom and Dad some day - we'll be getting that much extra in our net pay for many years - which can be added to our investments if we take the responsibility. Let's handle retirement on our own and let Uncle Sam just worry about providing military defense.

Nice...
18 posted on 08/06/2011 11:58:35 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: True Grit

Why in hell are illegals drawing social security? Now that I think about it, I think the answer is Jimmy Peanut Carter.

Actually more likely President Reagan. He is the only President in history to be an amnesty President. He gave a way for illegals to become citizens. That is most likely his only negative.


19 posted on 08/06/2011 12:42:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: PieterCasparzen

I never understood the cap. Just lift the cap but also give more benefits to those who are over the cap. For example, if a guy makes 250,000 a year and he pays SS on the entire amount, instead of 1800 dollars a month for life he could get 2500 a month which would help out with monthly expenses. I think that could work and most people would love to get a larger SS check because trust me when I say that yes the house is paid but you still pay property taxes and what is even worse in maintaining the house. It is certainly an option that should be looked at. I just might have figured out the entire crisis. lol.


20 posted on 08/06/2011 12:46:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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