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To: miss marmelstein

I didnt saw you were a liar (now who is misreading?), I said you made statements about the UK that didnt hold up, were incorrect.

You said several friends and made a reference to their disgust being related to dark skin. At that sorry I had to object and reply, as I wont let accusations of British racism pass unchallenged. As along with Ireland, we are probably the least racist and antisemitic country in Europe, and have rejected right wing (and other) extremism from the 1930’s to 2011. Any FR’er could have taken your comment to suggest a general racist attitude in Britain.

Let alone most freepers are unaware of the love in the UK for the Gurkhas. Another point I had to make.

Re Empire, I didnt say the US was an imperial power a la the British, Roman or French empires, I said that at times the US HAS BEHAVED like a colonial power. Conquest, expansion and subjugation. Sorry, but thats a fact.

America tried to annex Canada twice(and twice got a very bloody nose). Manifest Destiny, the Mexican American war, the Spanish American war, the Phillipenes, Central and South America. America in the 19th and early 20th century was a rapacious imperial power like us in all but name.
Wasnt it Twain who said the US was behaving so badly that the Stars and Stripes should be changed for the skull and crossbones?. Wasnt it Smedley Butler who said he acted like a high class thug for American big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers?.


54 posted on 08/10/2011 8:02:44 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

Here is your quote from August 8: “Your assertion that the British people oppose Gurkha citizenship is an utter lie...” Sounds like you are, indeed, calling me a liar.

Of course, I never said anything about the British people in general. I mentioned several friends who seemed concerned about Gurkha citizenship. That does not make them racists, just concerned citizens who may not be that well-informed about the Gurkha’s contributions to Great Britain.

And I most certainly NEVER said my friends showed disgust at “dark skins.” How dare you say that I wrote that in a post?

I know all about Manifest Destiny and the Mexican-American War. Personally, I support Manifest Destiny, the Mexican-American War as I do the Battle for Texas. One of my ancestors, Judah Levy, served in one of the early legislatures of Texas. During this time, we brought several of our greatest states into the Union and I’m very proud we did.

Mark Twain said many cynical things so perhaps that great writer felt a little guilty for dodging the Civil War.

As for England being a safe haven for Jews, let’s just go through a tiny bit of history: 1189-1190-Massacres of Jews in London and York. 1290, Edict of Expulsion. 1936, the Battle of Cable Street as English Jews fought British Nazis in the East End and the general British opposition to allowing Jews into the Holy Land after WWII. Now we have vile Jew hatred expressed in the Guardian and elsewhere over “that shitty little country of Israel.”

I also know there have been good times for Jews in England. But let’s not pretend that thousands of years have been overly kind to God’s chosen people.


55 posted on 08/10/2011 10:29:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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