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To: Zakeet

“For the record, the Mormons left Ohio after the failure of the Kirtland Safety Society. Their bank was never chartered with the state, never had any contributed capital, never had any competent management, and issued large amounts of counterfeit money. Thousands of people were financially ruined in the fiasco, which was one of the triggers of the Panic of 1837 and following five year depression ... “

Looking for the record I find a different story.


44 posted on 08/09/2011 5:04:12 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

Post it...


45 posted on 08/09/2011 5:35:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BlueMoose

Looking for the record I find a different story.

I used Fawn Brodie's No Man Knows My History and Hubert Bancroft's History of Utah as my primary sources, although the account is available elsewhere and can be easily verified through public records (referenced in Brodie IIRC).

Obviously, I know nothing about you personally, but would guess that you are probably LDS based on your comment about finding a different account of the Kirtland Safety Society fiasco in the records you consulted. Either way, you should be advised that the Mormon Church is infamous for distorting, rewriting, concealing and fabricating facts about historical incidents deemed embarrassing by church leadership to their cause.

Perhaps the most famous example concerns Mark Hofmann who sold at least 48 fabricated documents to the LDS Church (shown above left peddling a copy of the "Anthon transcript" to President Kimball, future President Hinkley, and Apostles Tanner, Romney, and Packer). The Church would either proudly display or secret away Hofmann's creations depending whether they were deemed beneficial or detrimental.

My favorite Hofmann forgery was the "Salamander Letter" wherein Joseph supposedly told Martin Harris yet another (of nine by my count) version of the First Vision wherein this time Joseph was supposedly visited by an elf disguised as an amphibian. Gerald Tanner, engaged as an expert by the U.S. Government, immediately dismissed the document as a fraud. On the other hand, LDS leadership, relying on the opinion of a forensic documents examiner, accepted the letter as genuine and made payments to Mark.

Please let me know if you feel that the Hofmann incident was an anomaly concerning Church attempts to distort historical records, and, time permitting, I would be pleased to provide you with many more examples.

49 posted on 08/09/2011 10:02:55 PM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: BlueMoose

Different source? Then where is it?


51 posted on 08/10/2011 7:01:48 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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