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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sorry... and I am not attacking you personally. No amount of obfuscation will change the fact that Perry says one thing and then says and does another. Here is an abundance of information that seems to negate all of your claims of his purity on this issue. It also mentions legislation by number and dates of his signing such legislation. Looks like an open borders Bushite to me!

LLS

____________________________________________________________ http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=56615334&category=views&id=20100510135128

Political Positions of Rick Perry

Immigration Summary Governor Perry

Supports open borders, sanctuary city policies, benefits for illegal aliens, and amnesty for illegal aliens through a comprehensive immigration reform plan. During election times, Governor Perry has spoken about the need to secure the border and occasionally speaks out against sanctuary cities. However, outside of the election, Governor Perry has signed legislation to grant in-state tuition to illegal aliens, kept in place guidelines to prevent law enforcement from finding illegal aliens, and opposed efforts from other states to enforce immigration laws.

He has stated that there are jobs that people from Mexico will do but US citizens will not. One of the first pieces of legislation that Governor Perry supported and signed after taking office was the Texas version of the DREAM Act. The law allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition rates at Texas colleges. In a question during the BELO debate in 2010, Governor Perry stated that other US citizens could "move on down to Texas and become a citizen and they'll be ready for it," when asked why he would support in-state tuition for illegal aliens but not for other citizens.

In 2009 Governor Perry stated that punishing children by not allowing them to pay in-state tuition because their parents brought them to the US illegally was not what the US was about. Governor Perry has spoken often about the need to secure the border. He has written numerous op-eds and given several speeches noting that border security is a responsibility of the federal government and that it is failing in it's responsibility. He has also criticized the movement of criminal aliens through Texas to be released in Mexico, and has criticized the lack of funds for incarcerating illegal aliens.

In 2004, Governor Perry stated that he supported efforts by President Bush to establish a guest worker program to allow aliens to enter the country legally and then work and return home. In support of this plan, Governor Perry noted that bringing the labor of illegal aliens off the black market legitimizes the labor of those people and removes the incentive to enter illegally. Governor Perry proposes the plan as a better method of securing the border and preventing illegal immigration - a guest worker program that legally allows anyone who desires to enter the country to do so legally.

When Arizona enacted legislation to allow law enforcement officers to inquire about immigration status of those it was already in contact with, Governor Perry opposed the move and called it the wrong direction for Texas. He stated that turning law enforcement officers into immigration officers removed them from their task of protecting the people. These statements are counter to those made numerous times by Governor Perry when he asserted the success of multiple cross-bureau operations involving crime along the border and illegal immigration. Governor Perry stated that no matter what the color of the uniform, increased law presence and enforcement decreased crime.

During the 2010 election and the run up to a possible 2012 presidential bid, Governor Perry spoke against and threatened to move on sanctuary cities. However, the Texas Department of Public Safety policy mirrors the policies that define a "sanctuary city" in which officers are forbidden from inquiring about immigration status. Texas DREAM ActIn May of 2001, Governor Perry signed House Bill 1403. This legislation allowed illegal aliens who graduate from a Texas public high school to attend a Texas college at the in state tuition rate.

AN ACT relating to the eligibility of certain persons to qualify as residents of this state for purposes of higher education tuition or to pay tuition at the rate provided to residents of this state. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:

SECTION 1. Section 54.051(m), Education Code, is amended to read as follows: Unless the student establishes residency as provided by Section 54.052(j) or 54.057, tuition for a student who is a citizen [ Â… ... moreare citizens] of any country other than the United States of America is the same as the tuition required of other nonresident students. SECTION 2. Section 54.052, Education Code, is amended by adding Subsection (j) to read as follows: (j) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, an individual shall be classified as a Texas resident until the individual establishes a residence outside this state if the individual resided with the individual's parent, guardian, or conservator while attending a public or private high school in this state and:

(1) graduated from a public or private high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma in this state;

(2) resided in this state for at least three years as of the date the person graduated from high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma;

(3) registers as an entering student in an institution of higher education not earlier than the 2001 fall semester; and

(4) provides to the institution an affidavit stating that the individual will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity the individual is eligible to do so. SECTION 3. Subchapter B, Chapter 54, Education Code, is amended by adding Section 54.0551 to read as follows: Sec. 54.0551.

CHANGE OF RESIDENCE; ONE PARENT REMAINING IN STATE. An individual who is 18 years of age or under or is a dependent and who, along with the individual's parents, was formerly a resident of this state is entitled to pay tuition at the rate provided for Texas residents if:

(1) the individual and the parent who is the individual's managing conservator or who is the individual's joint managing conservator with whom the individual primarily resides change their legal residence from this state to another state; and

(2) the other parent who is the individual's possessory conservator or who is the individual's joint managing conservator with whom the individual does not primarily reside continues to reside in this state and is not delinquent on the payment of any child support.

SECTION 4. Section 54.057(a), Education Code, is amended to read as follows:

(a) An alien who is living in this country under a visa permitting permanent residence or who has applied to or has a petition pending with the Immigration and Naturalization Service to attain lawful status under federal immigration law has the same privilege of qualifying for resident status for tuition and fee purposes under this subchapter as has a citizen of the United States. A resident alien residing in a junior college district located immediately adjacent to Texas boundary lines shall be charged the resident tuition by that junior college. SECTION 5. Section 54.060

b. Education Code, is amended to read as follows:

(b) The foreign student tuition fee prescribed in this chapter does not apply to a foreign student who is a resident of a nation situated adjacent to Texas, who registers in any general academic teaching institution, as defined in Section 61.003(3), or component of the Texas State Technical College System in a county immediately adjacent to the nation in which the foreign student resides or who registers for lower division courses at a community or junior college having a partnership agreement pursuant to Subchapter N, Chapter 51, with an upper-level university and both institutions are located in the county immediately adjacent to the nation in which the foreign student resides, or who registers in Texas A&M University--Kingsville, Texas A&M University--Corpus Christi, or The University of Texas at San Antonio and, except as provided by this subsection, who demonstrates a financial need after the financial resources of the foreign student and the student's family are considered. The foreign student described in this subsection shall pay tuition equal to that charged Texas residents under Sections 54.051 and 54.0512. The coordinating board shall adopt rules governing the determination of financial need of students under this subsection and rules governing a pilot project to be established at general academic teaching institutions and at components of the Texas State Technical College System in counties that are not immediately adjacent to the nation in which the foreign student resides.

SECTION 6. Sections 1 through 5 of this Act apply only to tuition for a term or semester that begins on or after the effective date of this Act.

SECTION 7. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2001. ... less... less Veto of Driver's License LegislationIn 2001, Governor Perry vetoed legislation that passed through both the state House and Senate with wide support. The measure would have changed Texas law to allow the Department of Public Safety to accept whatever it deems appropriate as valid identification to receive a driver's license. Proponents claimed that a driver's license represents knowledge of motor vehicle rules and not proof of citizenship or valid immigration status. Opponents stated that it was an obvious attempt to assist illegal immigrants and avoiding the law. In vetoing the legislation, Governor Perry stated that Texas already possessed a mechanism for legal immigrants and ambassadors to drive legally in the US and no further methods were necessary. The summary from the digest and the reason given there for Governor Perry's veto are show below. DIGEST: HB 396 would have defined proof of identity necessary to receive a driver’s license as: •! a driver’s license or personal identification certificate issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS), even if it is expired; a valid driver’s license or valid identification document from another state that includes a photo of the person; a passport or identity card with a photo issued by another country, even if it is expired; more! a duplicate original birth certificate or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by Texas or another state or country if accompanied by required supporting documents; or any other proof that is satisfactory to DPS.

The bill would have created an exception to the current requirement in the Family Code that applicants for driver’s licenses must provide their social security numbers. Instead, applications could have been accompanied by: ! social security numbers;! a Social Security Administration (SSA) L-676 letter stating that the applicant was ineligible to obtain a social security number;! a tax identification number issued by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service;! an affidavit sworn before a Texas notary public stating that the applicant had not been issued a social security number, SSA L-676 letter, or tax identification number.

GOVERNOR'S REASON FOR VETO: “Existing Texas law and Texas Department of Public Safety rules already provide the means for foreign nationals who are in this country legally to obtain Texas driver’s licenses or, as with Mexico, to drive legally using their foreign-issued driver’s licenses... less... less Southwest Border Registration Education Project:

In June of 2001, Governor Perry spoke at the Southwest Border Registration Education Project. During that speech, he noted his view that illegal immigrants should be educated in Texas colleges at in-state tuition rates not available to American citizens. Gov. Rick Perry's Remarks to The Southwest Voter Registration Education Project * Note: Gov. Perry frequently departs from prepared remarks. Friday, June 22, 2001• Speech Thank you Antonio. Mayor Garza, Latino Vote 2001 Chairman Henry Cisneros, fellow elected officials, friends in San Antonio. It is my great honor to be with you this evening. Before I begin, let me introduce someone very special to me. She spent 17 years as a nurse providing health care to those in need.

See more at the link above:

65 posted on 08/09/2011 9:25:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The bottom line is Perry is a great candidate to take back the White House and get us on a conservative path. In reading all of his critics and objectors' opinions, I come away with "Man, he is smart. Good move, Perry."

Where he distinguishes himself from people like Palin, Bachmann, and Paul, is in his bringing people together and not driving wedges. I realize a lot of idealists view this as pandering or weak, but the reality is you have to play poker to win a presidency. Play smart, and play wisely.

Can't see any other candidates with this resume except for maybe Pawlenty and Romney. I think as time goes along, they both lose supporters to the Perry camp.

66 posted on 08/09/2011 9:56:00 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: LibLieSlayer

Sorry but you have linked and cut and pasted from this:

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=56615334&category=views&id=20100510135128

It is a highly misrepresentative collection of anti-Perry talking points bundled together to appear authentic.

Who runs this site? Please find out and let us know.

I know you keep trying to make something stick but it just isn’t going to change the facts.

I could go back through all your comments for the last ten years and make you appear something you are not.

The reason I always try to put links in my posts, is for others to go see where I got my information and decide if the source is credible or not.


68 posted on 08/09/2011 10:21:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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