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Came across this classic piece of "let's not over react chaps" British sang froid on the Telegraph's Riots Live.

18.20 Sir Hugh Orde, head of the Association of Chief Police Officers, has told The Guardian that water cannon and plastic bullets are currently not necessary in London. He said:

"I do not think it would be sensible in any way shape or form to deploy water canon or baton rounds in London. Baton rounds are very serious bits of equipment. I would only deploy them in life threatening situations where my officers were under live fire, bombs or massive petrol bombs."

"What is happening in London is not an insurgency that is going to topple the country. There are 8 million people in London and it is a tiny proportion doing this. They are gangs of looters and criminals and although it is concerning it has to be kept in proportion."

1 posted on 08/09/2011 12:47:44 PM PDT by marshmallow
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I think they’re going to have to go all the way on this one.

Start with rubber bullets and make it clear that its up to them if it ends with rubber or lead.


2 posted on 08/09/2011 12:50:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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3 posted on 08/09/2011 12:50:55 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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I suggest lead bullets.


4 posted on 08/09/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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If that doesn’t work... paint-balls!


5 posted on 08/09/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by Rio
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Now, now young people. You’d better stop that, or, or, or, well, uh, we’ll wear our helmets and shields and back away from you. If that doesn’t make you stop we’ll yell at you.

Hell’s bells! Grow a pair! get out the water cannons, bean bag guns, rubber bullets, whatever. Just do it! Or you won’t have a London to protect.


6 posted on 08/09/2011 12:51:45 PM PDT by mark3681
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These are the plastic bullets made by Charmin Works in Manchester, a major supplier of plastic munitions.

They have tiny ultra-soft absorbent pillow type material on the end of each round so as not to cause permanent damage or skin rash.

It’s being reported, if the rioting continues into a 4th night, the police will consider using the new Q-tip rounds.


7 posted on 08/09/2011 12:52:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Hugh Orde is an idiot!


8 posted on 08/09/2011 12:52:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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9 posted on 08/09/2011 12:54:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I would only deploy them in life threatening situations where my officers were under live fire, bombs or massive petrol bombs."

This is a perfect example of the roll-over and die nicey-nicey guns-are-bad mindest that has infected Europe the past 100 years and especially the increasingly socialist countries like GB.

So this a$$hat would send his officers out to a gunfight with plastic bullets. He would prefer to have his officers use less-lethal force against criminals using lethal force against them. What would it take for this jaggoff to actually use overwhelming force to quell massive riots?

I swear nothing but buggery been going on in GB and it's really been showing lately

At least we'll last a little longer than they will.....
10 posted on 08/09/2011 12:55:00 PM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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Live bullets would put an end to the riots immediately.

If a flare-up occurs, repeats as necessary.


13 posted on 08/09/2011 12:56:01 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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I understand the desire to be humanitarian. And perhaps law enforcement knows they will be second guessed in the courts if some people get injured. But if this continues, they are going to have to kill some people, regrettably. The direction this is going is of no good to anyone.


14 posted on 08/09/2011 12:56:50 PM PDT by johniegrad
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What’s the matter? No lead bullets in the UK these days. Old Mayor Daly may have been a corrupt old bastard but he knew how to deal with rioters and looters.


16 posted on 08/09/2011 12:58:50 PM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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I would suggest the use of buckshot, until the street is quiet and safe.


18 posted on 08/09/2011 1:00:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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18.20 Sir Hugh Orde, head of the Association of Chief Police Officers, has told The Guardian that water cannon and plastic bullets are currently not necessary in London. He said: "I do not think it would be sensible in any way shape or form to deploy water canon or baton rounds in London.

Then you guys deserve everything you get...and I do not feel sorry for you. I HAD been watching the BBC...feeling a little bit of pity. No more.

19 posted on 08/09/2011 1:01:12 PM PDT by NELSON111
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“London police said on Tuesday they will consider using baton rounds”

and they’ll might consider raising their voice and making other scary threats if extreme violence continues.


22 posted on 08/09/2011 1:04:33 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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What the h#@! are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language? - Private Frost


27 posted on 08/09/2011 1:11:11 PM PDT by ScreamingGreenAlienGorilla (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecc. 10:2)
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"Prepare To Use Plastic Bullets' if Violence Continues"

Prepare?! "Commence to begin to start to get ready to prepare" would be more likely be a reflection of Brit thinking. These are not the people who stood up to Hitler and Mussolini, or to the Japanese war machine.

29 posted on 08/09/2011 1:16:13 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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Here’s a comment from my friend in the UK after I advised they should switch to real bullets:
“Jack,

We are OK. Unbelievable what is going on. Whilst it is rioting, it nonetheless in truth is a race issue. The Rioters are 90% black/Asian but nobody will mention this and because of this the Police do not use any meaningful force against the rioters. We need the New York police force, they would not stand back and be pelted with bricks by black and Asian teenage rioters.”

He might be wrong about the NYPD but interesting anyway.


32 posted on 08/09/2011 1:24:45 PM PDT by JeanLM
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That guy is also mentally ill.

What he is saying is simply that the mob is free to hurt certain people and burn them out and he doesn't care ~

Equality under the law is not a Brit ideal sad to say.

33 posted on 08/09/2011 1:26:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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London Riots: Police 'Prepare To Use Plastic Bullets' if Violence Continues

As in

"Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!"

36 posted on 08/09/2011 1:35:19 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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