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US: Strike kills militants who downed US chopper (JUSTICE and REVENGE!)
MSNBC ^ | 08/10/2011

Posted on 08/10/2011 7:57:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: skeeter

I’m wondering the same thing.


121 posted on 08/10/2011 11:29:46 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: famousdayandyear
I'm well aware of that. Saved thousands of American soldiers, Japanese soldiers, and Japanese citizens.

Horrible, but necessary....but apples to oranges.

This is not WWII, and the Afghan people are not imperial Japan.

122 posted on 08/10/2011 11:31:46 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

I’m sorry — can’t follow your train of thought. I do know a verse from Matthew’s gospel: “I came not to bring peace, but a sword.”


123 posted on 08/10/2011 11:39:36 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
So, according to your train of thought, Jesus' words in Matthew mean we should wipe out the Afghan people?

I'm not following......

Is anything I said about God's love and sacrifice incorrect, in your view? I understand there are differences of opinion on this subject, but don't you think it's a bit presumptious to make a connection between the words that Jesus said about Himself and His purpose, and the desire to kill all Muslims?

124 posted on 08/10/2011 11:50:02 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: skeeter

“How in the world could they know that they killed the muslims directly responsible for shooting down the helicopter? How could they know WHO was personally responsible?”

Kill all of them, it is the only way to be sure.


125 posted on 08/10/2011 11:59:45 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: famousdayandyear
I just looked up the context of your quote from Matthew - in Matthew 10, starting in verse 29, Jesus is talking about how very much He loves each of us, even to the numbering of the hairs on our heads, and how much we are worth to Him. Then it is followed by our need to acknowledge Him before others, and being disowned if we don't, followed by the verse you cite.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace, but conflict arises, even within families because of belief in Him.

I don't think it has anything to do with blowing up the entire country of Afghanistan, do you?

126 posted on 08/10/2011 12:00:11 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; SeekAndFind
"kinetic"

Obama first used the phrase "kinetic military action" in the early days of the Libya adventure. It is no coincidence that the abbreviation "KMA" also means something else, which is basically what he was telling those who questioned the Libya adventure to do.

127 posted on 08/10/2011 12:20:36 PM PDT by foxfield (Sarah Palin, America's "girl next door".)
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To: ohioWfan

IMHO, you have picked the wrong thread for your mission


128 posted on 08/10/2011 12:26:18 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
IMO, you have completely misinterpreted my 'mission'......actually missing the fact that I have no 'mission' on this thread.

Let's be honest here, OK? Do you advocate blowing up all of Afghanistan in Jesus' Name as you have implied?

What have you really been trying to say? No more cryptic comments, please.

Just state what you're thinking outright, so we can have an honest discussion. If you don't want that, so be it.

129 posted on 08/10/2011 12:30:50 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

IMO, winning hearts and minds is BS—esp with 7th century barbarians. We should wage war to WIN TOTAL VICTORY—whatever it takes. These people will cut your throat before you can get out a verse of Matthew. Our bravest, our best, our sacred trust and honor is being TRASHED by the political generals. We should not spend one more ounce of blood for criminals—foreign OR DOMESTIC. To be honest, I really don’t care what you think — evangelize with someone else. Should I be clearer? The end.


130 posted on 08/10/2011 1:08:56 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
Well, thanks for finally saying something. Why did it take so long? Why the games?

Is it because you're a newbie?

If so, you'll find a lot of support for your POV on this forum (and even for part of it from me).

Next time, start with your honest opinions (though you didn't actually answer my questions directly, even in this post), and leave out the game-playing and you'll save everyone a lot of valuable time.

btw, welcome to FR.

131 posted on 08/10/2011 1:20:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

Thank you for the welcome. Have you read about the Battle of Lepanto? Pax et bonum.


132 posted on 08/10/2011 1:28:40 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
Just skimmed the Wiki article about it, but of course, they can't be trusted for accuracy......especially when dealing with Christian/Muslim conflicts.

Do you have a link to a more accurate source for it?

(Do you know how to post a link? If not, I can help you do it. :)

133 posted on 08/10/2011 1:34:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

Sorry - it was just the top of my head. Another useful Bing search might be “Charles Martel” — who saved a Muslim overrun of Europe in the 15th century (I believe).
I will keep you in mind when I wish to link something. Thx for the offer (pictures too )I’ll mail you.


134 posted on 08/10/2011 1:40:25 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
For an article all you have to do is (without spaces) type....

< a href = " the address of the article "> The name of the article < /a >

and it should show up as a live link in your post.

Try it out.

135 posted on 08/10/2011 1:45:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: skeeter
How in the world could they know that they killed the muslims directly responsible for shooting down the helicopter? How could they know WHO was personally responsible?

Just a guess, but the fact that it was a trap for the seal team, and that we sent them into the trap not in their usual helos that have infrared adsorbing paint but in a regular transport helo that does not. The old tech stinger does not work so well on the Seal teams regular choppers...

My guess is that "command" was tracking them before they took out the non seal chopper filled with the guys that took out Bin Laudin. I suspect a political payoff to Saudi, to appease the Muslims with our oil supply. And I suspect "Command" knew the guy who fired the stinger by name before he fired it. So we trade off Team 6 to appease the Muslims, and we blow up the Hitmen to appease the Americans.

I also suspect this "Command" comes from the very top. Game over, but the stink will be hard to wash off...

136 posted on 08/10/2011 1:51:47 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: famousdayandyear
Our bravest, our best, our sacred trust and honor is being TRASHED by the political generals.

The Tillman thing really disturbed me. Did they KNOWINGLY award him a Silver Star for something that didn't happen? If so, that's spitting on every Silver Star winner and worse than what Admiral Boorda did. (I'm asking - was that an innocent mistake?)

137 posted on 08/10/2011 2:03:37 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: SkyDancer

But they got theirs. 72 Helen Thomas Virgins With Bad Attitudes and PMS Cramps for eternity.


138 posted on 08/10/2011 2:04:48 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: famousdayandyear
Here you go....

Remembering Lepanto

Thanks for the article!

139 posted on 08/10/2011 2:08:09 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I do not know. One thing I do know is that I don’t believe anything from gov (mil or otherwise) anymore.


140 posted on 08/10/2011 2:08:09 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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