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This is what I've been seeing on a National level as well, yet it seems mostly ignored. When speaking of job creation, what kind of jobs are these?

I've been seeing way too many former $50,000+ annual earners who have long since run out of unemployment benefits who are now working for minimum wage, since it's all that's available. In some areas, even those jobs are scarce.

1 posted on 08/13/2011 9:35:49 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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Of course new jobs are at the low end of the pay scale. Higher pay only comes with more experience! You need to look at the average wage, not the wage paid for new jobs that are created.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 9:40:15 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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No one is forcing anyone to take those minimum wage jobs.


3 posted on 08/13/2011 9:40:58 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Are only pro-positive statements regarding Perry accepted on this thread?

Is this one of those Perry threads where legitimate disagreement or political dissension are not welcome or tolerated?


4 posted on 08/13/2011 9:43:39 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Compared to states where they aren’t even seeing minumum wage jobs being created, I’d still say Texas is doing pretty good.


5 posted on 08/13/2011 9:43:56 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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In the Austin (TX) area, very few I know of are working for minimum wage. Like to see the stats for the rest of the states and how good they are doing.

This is just the first of many hit pieces on Gov. Perry’s record.


8 posted on 08/13/2011 9:47:58 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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the criminal liberal media was dancing in the streets just a few weeks ago when McDonald’s announced they were hiring 70K people...PROGRESS!!!


9 posted on 08/13/2011 9:49:00 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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A whole lot of Texas is very rural and agricultural. I don’t see how you can go by the average pay. Also, if not for the total failure of a decent national energy policy, there would have been untold new, high paying jobs in the energy sector in Texas. Not doing bad now, but could have boomed.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 9:52:11 AM PDT by mtrott
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Uh, this tripe is from the very same socialist-loving network that was lamenting this constant exodus of businesses from California to Texas? Now why would they be doing that? To increase the number of minimum wage jobs or because of the lack of state taxation and lower regulatory restrictions?

I live in Texas and although Perry's not perfect, he is in comparison to that ignorant, narcissistic, communist a$$ clown we have now.

13 posted on 08/13/2011 9:52:36 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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So, should we eliminate the minimum wage jobs and put those people on welfare instead?

Seems to me that creating minimum wage jobs gets people working and off of the government payroll. And maybe gives teenagers something to do, and some spending money, which should be good for the economy.

Just can’t find anything wrong with having lots of minimum wage jobs, as long as there are also higher paying jobs.


17 posted on 08/13/2011 9:56:01 AM PDT by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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What have learned about the “job creation” numbers the past few years?

Everyone brags about how many jobs were “created”, but what about the number that were LOST?

In August 2008, Texas had about 10.64 million jobs. About a year later, with the recession in full swing, Texas had about 400,000 less (per PolitiFact).

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) keeps annual data, starting from April 1 each year, on total private sector job gains and losses. During the most recent three years — 2008, 2009 and 2010 — California gained an average of 1.3 million jobs annually, while Texas posted an average of 935,000 jobs. However, California also lost an average of 1.8 million jobs while Texas lost 992,000.

Another thing is how the jobs are measured. Comparing employment in a single month in 2006 with the same month five years later, Texas’ job numbers grow. Shorten the time period to three years, and Texas shows a net loss in jobs, going from 10.56 million jobs in January 2008 to 10.47 million in January 2011.

Remember, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Rick Perry or any other candidate better be prepared to talk details, not just toss numbers out and take credit.

I’m not saying he’s lying - I’m saying it depends on what is measured, how, and when. And then there’s the whole separate issue of the quality of the jobs, i.e. minimum wage, benefits, etc.

Time to run a level four diagnostic on your BS Detector, cuz we’re going to need ‘em...


18 posted on 08/13/2011 9:57:48 AM PDT by bigbob
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One other thing... I find it typical of the sychophantic scum in the DNC propoganda MSM unit to degrade Perry’s creation of jobs when their Marxist hero, “$hit for brains” can’t do anything but destroy them by the hundreds of thousands.


20 posted on 08/13/2011 9:59:30 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763110/posts

and ...

http://tinyurl.com/3rr7sju


21 posted on 08/13/2011 9:59:47 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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Okay, so minimum wage jobs are primarily service sector... that means they need to fill them because they have so many people with non-service sector jobs that are paying customers. I guess employment is stable in Texas.


22 posted on 08/13/2011 10:00:09 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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Well if things in Texas are so great then the rest of the country must really suck!


26 posted on 08/13/2011 10:05:34 AM PDT by 38special (troubling, isn't it?)
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bump.


29 posted on 08/13/2011 10:14:28 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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Some 550,000 workers last year were paid at or below the federal minimum wage of $7.25, more than double the number making those wages in 2008, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

A thousand people a day are moving to Texas...I don't think they were all CEOs of Fortune 500 corporations where they came from!

Most were probably minimum wage where they came from...and lost that!

Obama has cost TX a LOT of jobs. Off shore drilling was stopped...and paid well. At NASA, engineering jobs were lost.

Obama is out to get TX because we don't want him and his flippin government programs.

I can't stand the sight or sound of Barack Obama!

31 posted on 08/13/2011 10:19:02 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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Yeah, it’s much better to be unemployed getting that extended unemployment check from taxpayers, than to take a lowly job. We have our pride, after all.

Guess it is true, loads of people are looking for employment, but not many are looking to work.


33 posted on 08/13/2011 10:24:46 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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Of course they will attack Perry on job creation; Bambi's record is non-existent!

What they don't address is the cost of living in Texas. Outside of the major cities, folks can get by on minimum wage. A single mom making $10 an hour can keep a roof over her head (not a McMansion, but a roof) and still provide.

And yes, the $50K jobs are still out there in Texas. I host a job bank for my industry, and we had several new posts this month after a quiet period.

You are correct, though, Rational Thought. A friend of mine sent out over 700 resumes looking for work, and eventually took a job making $12 an hour. From over $100K, with over 25 years experience in the field, to $12 an hour - in New York. Thankfully, his wife is in the medical field and earns a good salary, so they are hanging on - albiet with a radically different lifestyle.

34 posted on 08/13/2011 10:24:56 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often,)
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Dem illegals go to do somin to eat. Ha, ha, boom economy.
38 posted on 08/13/2011 10:34:11 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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This is what I've been seeing on a National level as well, yet it seems mostly ignored. When speaking of job creation, what kind of jobs are these?

I've been seeing way too many former $50,000+ annual earners who have long since run out of unemployment benefits who are now working for minimum wage, since it's all that's available. In some areas, even those jobs are scarce.


Another important question is jobs for whom?

125,000 new legal workers (guest workers and green cards) continue to be brought into the US each month, i.e. 1.5 million per year. Then there's ~40 million illegals. FYI Perry is great buds with La Raza.
42 posted on 08/13/2011 10:46:55 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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