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Boomers Fleece Generation X with Social Security (December 12, 2001)
Cato.org ^ | December 12, 2001. | Thomas A. Firey

Posted on 08/13/2011 1:13:31 PM PDT by Publius804

Generation Xers and Gen-Yers like me have a hard time showing interest in what goes on in Washington. But we had better end our apathy -- and soon -- or we'll spend the rest of our lives paying for it. Members of the generation that came before us -- the Baby Boomers -- are trying to pull a scam under the guise of "protecting" Social Security. If they succeed, we -- and our children -- will be the poorer for it.

Everyone knows Social Security is in trouble (and President Bush's Commission to Strengthen Social Security released its report on reform yesterday). But few people understand what that trouble is and whom it will affect. Understanding that is the key to understanding the scam.

Right now, Social Security is in great health. This year, like so many before, hundreds of billions of dollars will pour into it from FICA and payroll taxes, and only some will go back out as benefits to retirees. The rest will be exchanged for government bonds, which the federal government will pay back -- with interest -- to Social Security in the coming years.

But things will change in the next decade, when the Boomers will retire and start collecting benefits. By 2016, so many people will be drawing Social Security that the money needed to cover benefits will be more than what we Gen-X/Y workers will be paying in taxes. Fortunately, the program will be able to cash in the bonds that it's now buying, and will use the repaid principle and interest to keep up the benefits

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: boomers; genx; socialsecurity
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To: BenKenobi

That is pretty stupid, larger groups always do that, whites cast more democrat votes than blacks although whites vote republican, more Texans vote Democrat than people in Massachusetts do, more white Evangelicals vote democrat than Jews or homosexuals etc, etc, etc.

What we know is that 66% of the under 30 crowd of 2008 is hard core lefty and that is a future of liberalism that will not change.


21 posted on 08/13/2011 2:26:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: ansel12

Facts are stupid?

The fact that the boomers are such a larger demographic, is why it’s crucial for republicans to get solid support from them.

48/48 is not solid republican support from Boomers.

Boomers sold us down the river.


22 posted on 08/13/2011 2:46:50 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Publius804; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; ...

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.  

23 posted on 08/13/2011 2:54:52 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: EggsAckley
I’m a Boomer and I don’t take any blame for the disaster confronting SS.

Hopefully you won't be blaming us younger folks for the means testing and the reduced benefits heading your way soon, either.

25 posted on 08/13/2011 2:56:30 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the first dumbass Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Publius804

And it’s only getting worse.

Like many, I’ve paid into SS and Medicare for many years. I’m 65 and still employed and still paying into the system – never taking a nickel out.

I turn red when I hear SS and Medicare called ‘entitlement programs’… as if to somehow change the meaning of the words to ‘give-aways programs’.

If nothing more, the government that took the money needs to at least pay back every dime they stole from the people who’ve paid into the system. To do less is nothing short of robbery – a dangerous scenario that will not go down easy with its victims.


26 posted on 08/13/2011 2:57:55 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: Publius804

To Mr. Firey: Better get a second job, I’ll need your taxes when I retire.


27 posted on 08/13/2011 3:01:52 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BenKenobi

What is stupid is for someone to be so liberal that they not only devote themselves to defending an age groups 66% vote for Obama, but they also try to keep conservatives from discussing it as it affects America’s future.

Generation Y is a dedicated leftist generation, which means that this country is going to get very ugly in about 20 years.


28 posted on 08/13/2011 3:02:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Publius804

Wow ten years ago and the article predicted the future correctly! It is beyond obvious that Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme about to collapse.


29 posted on 08/13/2011 3:07:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Publius804

Corrupt politicians have fleeced generations with Social Security.


30 posted on 08/13/2011 3:21:41 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Sparticus

There already is means testing and reduced benefits. But no problem, just don’t blame me when you can’t start collecting your pittance until you’re ninety.


31 posted on 08/13/2011 3:21:41 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: EggsAckley

Yeah, what did we do?

Gen Xer’s as well as other mind numbed robots gave us “the won” who spent us further into oblivion. Bush tried to get a handle on SS but the nattering naybob’s screamed bloody murder.

We can’t fix it if nobody has the cajones to do so. The dims are useless and the GOP is spineless, what’s left???


32 posted on 08/13/2011 3:22:00 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: Publius804

I don’t remember ever having an opt out choice from having a portion of my salary confiscated to fund SS over the past 38 years. If there had been one I would have surely opted out. I just want my earned money back that was taken away by a federal government fuly involved in socialism, but I doubt I’ll see much of it returned to me, if any.


33 posted on 08/13/2011 3:24:14 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
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To: ansel12

I think it’s pathetic that the boomers couldn’t even muster 50 percent support.

Probably because they thought that McCain was too old and they didn’t want to vote for somebody older then them. That’s been the boomer cry since day 1, n’est-ce pas?


34 posted on 08/13/2011 3:25:06 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: vortigern

Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare are considered welfare programs, because our illustrious leaders have expanded eligibility so much that many, many people on the programs have never paid into them in to any significant degree. As another FReeper mentioned, it isn’t the retirees so much as all the others who are getting a free ride.

Look at the present state of SSI programs. Why is ADHD so common now? How about payouts for alcoholism? Most Americans have no problem with taking care of the TRULY disabled, but we’ve expanded the definition of a disability way, way beyond the ability of taxpayers to pay.

Big government programs are inherently inefficient and full of fraud. I don’t understand the disconnect that most people have. They joke about how bad the post office is. They complain about having to fight the government to get anything done. Then they turn around and ask the government to do more things!?!? It boggles the mind.

Truth be told, a lot of these programs could probably survive if benefits were limited to the truly old and infirm, but the temptation to expand them is always there. That’s how politicians stay in office, by promising more benefits for more people, and they are very good at it. Once the constitutional firewall was breached and government seized roles it was never intended to perform, the die was cast.

Good luck reigning any of this crap in short of total economic collapse. That doesn’t mean we give up, but the chances of any serious reform are slim. They will probably have to break it before we conservatives can fix it.


35 posted on 08/13/2011 3:35:23 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: Publius804

I’m 63. SS that is easy to fix for politicians. First they will up the income limit. Second they will increase the age limit. And while they do that, the treasury and central bank will devalue the dollar. If I’m lucky enough (if you want to call luck)to reach 90, my SS check will just be enough to buy a cup of coffee. You X generation and younger, I got news for you, the biggie will be funding medicare. That’s the elephant in the room. Man are you going to get soaked for that bill.


36 posted on 08/13/2011 3:49:03 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: BenKenobi

What is childish and pro liberal is you wanting to divert a conversation from a determinedly leftist voting block to a voting group with a 50/50 split in an election where Obama won by a 7 point margin.

You clearly have some sort of identity politics agenda and conservatism is not part of that agenda.

All I can figure is that you are part of the age group that voted 66% for Obama, so in some misguided chauvinism, you feel compelled to defend that 66% to your dying breath which makes for very strange conversation on a conservative activist site like freerepublic.


37 posted on 08/13/2011 3:53:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: steveab
my SS check will just be enough to buy a cup of coffee.

For sure, ask any Russian pensioner how it works.

38 posted on 08/13/2011 3:54:02 PM PDT by riri
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To: ansel12

I’m really tired of boomers giving themselves a passing grade for 48 percent.

48 is pathetic, and just not good enough.

We hear all these stories about how the boomers voted for Reagan, etc, but the fact is that boomers let us down last election big time.

Without them, Obama would not have been elected.

As for my generation, I feel let down by my elders, because frankly, you’ve done a terrible job.

Should I not expect more from the generation that’s been in power for the last 20 years?


39 posted on 08/13/2011 4:28:05 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: BenKenobi

Man, you have issues.


40 posted on 08/13/2011 4:30:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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