[mad_as_he$$]

There is one documented case (I do not have time to find it right now) of an F-15 killing an F-22 in games. I have the presentation in Powerpoint. The F-15 pilot was checked out in both planes and flying against a nugget F-22 pilot.

[rlmorel]

I have heard of that case...just goes to show, there is always, always, always some chink in the armor or a weak point.