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Did Perry go too far?
MSNBC ^ | August 16, 2011 | NBC’s Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower

Posted on 08/16/2011 6:17:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

** Did Perry go too far? A day after appearing to outshine Michele Bachmann on her home turf in Waterloo, albeit with some tough rhetoric aimed at President Obama, Rick Perry might have gone a bit too far in criticizing Obama and even the Federal Reserve while campaigning in Iowa yesterday. For Texans, this is typical Perry. But for Americans who do not know him, it's eyebrow-raising rhetoric. In fact, he sounded more like Trump or Gingrich. "I think the greatest threat to our country right now is this president trying to spend his way out of this debt," Perry said last night in Cedar Rapids, per NBC’s Carrie Dann. (A greater threat than international terrorism?) When reporters asked if he believes Obama doesn’t love America, Perry responded: “You need to ask him.” And then he upped the ante in remarks directed at the Fed. "Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous or treasonous in my opinion," Perry said, per Dann. He went on to say that promoters of such an idea -- hinting but not naming Ben Bernanke specifically -- would get an "ugly" treatment in his home state of Texas.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bernanke; disqualified; economy; gopprimary; idiot; perry; qe3; rickperry; ronpaul; thefed; treason; treasonous
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To: SMARTY
August 13, 2011 Rick Perry's Announcement Speech at Red State Gathering [YouTube]
51 posted on 08/16/2011 6:42:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mouton
Why do you say Pawlenty would decline? The way Perry was talking about him the other day made me think it's a possibility. Meets the regional criteria. Would be considered an able understudy if needed. And he seems calm and--I'm trying to find a nice way to say this--cooperative enough that you can send him out on the trail and not have to worry about what he might say or do.

I'm not saying I think he should, I'm just saying he would be a rational choice.

52 posted on 08/16/2011 6:43:08 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Dammit. I KNEW I should've saved all those sound bites of RATS evoking violence against Republicans and Tea Partiers.

Will I never learn?

53 posted on 08/16/2011 6:43:31 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Chuck Todd and P-MSNBC doing their part on behalf of the DNC to take down any Republican that may stand in the way of absolute liberal domination. After all, Liberals have been divinely appointed to have dominion over all living creatures and the planet! How dare anyone challenge them.

Therefore, it is the duty of the corrupt MSM to labor to diminish and tear down any Republican.


54 posted on 08/16/2011 6:43:39 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: "Let them eat peas!")
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To: Steamburg
YouTube: Rick Perry: The Left Is "Never Going To Like Us, So Let's Stop Trying To Curry Favor With Them"
55 posted on 08/16/2011 6:45:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You know what, Chuck, Mark, Domenico and Brooke? If you want to be treated nicely in Texas, you don’t print more money and you don’t show up at a barbecue with salsa made in New York City.


56 posted on 08/16/2011 6:45:27 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Mouton

Palin also would not be on anyone’s list. I’m sure he’ll let her campaign for him, though. Maybe she can be Sec. of Energy. That’s a suitable job for her, it seems. Not sure if she can keep her mouth shut enough to be a mere cabinet secretary though. She might just decide to keep doing what she’s doing. Then again, once she is clearly not a presidential candidate, the media might FINALLY lose interest in her. In that scenario, she might want to get back in the action.


57 posted on 08/16/2011 6:45:37 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The MSM will constantly be looking for a Macaca moment. The Governor should be careful.
58 posted on 08/16/2011 6:47:47 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: Russ
I guess the answer to the immigration issue is to destory the economy to the point that no one will want to come here, illegals or legals

Obama's doing just that.

Another way is what we've been doing all along. Increase our majority in the House and win the Senate. Bush had spent 8 years trying to do what a few fear Perry will do but could not get anything passed and the President we have today's trying to do the same thing.

Only difference is, the President we have NOW shoved Obamacare down the throats of the American people. And that's not all he's done. The question should NOT be whether Obama, Perry or Palin will seek to pass Immigration Reform. The REAL question is who do you trust more with the constitutional process required to actually pass "Immigration Reform"? Obama, who has a history of ignoring the Constitution?

Well, I know who I do NOT trust.

59 posted on 08/16/2011 6:48:00 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This will be a good test of Perry's political acumen.

He's obviously going to be pressed to "apologize". If he's smart he will used this tempest to explain why printing money is a bad idea. Ignore the calls for an apology. Keep the issue in the forefront of the minds of The Libturd Media and The American People.

Don't apologize, Rick! Explain why it's a bad idea.

60 posted on 08/16/2011 6:48:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: McGruff
The MSM will constantly be looking for a Macaca moment. The Governor should be careful.

It's only "Macaca" if you act like it's "Macaca."

61 posted on 08/16/2011 6:50:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Huck

I don’t think there’s any way Bachmann is a VP pick. I give that zero chance.
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I agree. I’m betting on Paul Ryan.

The budget, the deficit and entitlement reform are going to the policy issues receiving the major focus during the next administration. Perry will need a Paul Ryan to manage that effort.

Rubio would also be a good choice but he has serious Natural Born Citizen issues - his parents did not become American citizens until after his birth.


62 posted on 08/16/2011 6:50:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: Huck

I think he sees himself as a senator from Minn...just my guess.


63 posted on 08/16/2011 6:51:20 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry’s remark was an understatement. Continued spending is leading us rapidly to national insolvency. Without money or credit, we’re pretty much screwed. MSNBC is the media equivalent of pollution.


64 posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: McGruff

Perry should not be careful.

Perry should trust his instincts, and go for it all.

America is STARVING for straight talk. Perry seems to have that. Let him attack.

Nobody respects, or votes for, milquetoast. It’s how we got in this mess.

Right on Perry!


65 posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:46 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: InterceptPoint

I don’t think the VP pick is going to be a congressman. I also don’t think a freshman senator makes a good choice, especially given the resume and performance of our current president.


66 posted on 08/16/2011 6:53:34 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

that is what we need! I’m sick of these repubs that want to play nice nice.... it’s like the have no clue or don’t care what they are dealing with....


67 posted on 08/16/2011 6:53:41 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No teleprompter???

W O W!!


68 posted on 08/16/2011 6:54:28 AM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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69 posted on 08/16/2011 6:57:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Mouton
That's an interesting thought. Well, it all depends if he gets asked. He's already demonstrated he wants to be president. Which is a better route? Being vice president, or being a senator from Minnesota? It's a career decision he'll have to ponder.

I would think Perry would look for another governor, or someone with executive branch experience at the national level. Someone who is disciplined and not liable to run off at the mouth. Someone who can deal naturally with being second banana. I think that rules out Christie or Rudy. But Pawlenty seems perfectly suited. He's not exactly alpha male, even if he was governor.

70 posted on 08/16/2011 6:57:53 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
(A greater threat than international terrorism?)

Yes.

History and rational prediction indicate the consequence will be orders of magnitude more dead and more financial damage than the cumulative destruction by Al Quaida et al.

71 posted on 08/16/2011 6:58:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NO


72 posted on 08/16/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: Huck
I love Palin. Don't think she can get elected in the general and even would have a hard time in the primary since we all want Obama out.

However, the idea of her as Sec of Energy is brilliant. What better place to put her talents and background than having here shepard through legislation to get energy pumping thoughout the country. Oil from Alaska and the Gulf; natural gas from the northeast; coal from the Virginia's - we have so much energy here if we can just tap into it! Think about the jobs. Think about the lower cost of energy. Think about the lessening dependence on energy needs from our enemies. The answer is so easy and right in front of us, we need someone like her that can take the heat and get things done!

In Pa., they are creating thousands of jobs getting gas out of the ground. Of course, in NY, where we have sizable energy deposits as well, nothing is happening because left wing environmentalists outnumber common sense people 2 to 1.

Let's get Perry elected with Bachmann or Rubio at his side and Palin running Energy.

73 posted on 08/16/2011 7:01:57 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, Perry exceeded what proles are supposed to do. We’re supposed to take abuse with a smile on our faces.
What was that phrase they so loved in the last election?
Ah yes, I remember it well—”speaking truth to power”.
That’s all he did. FINALLY we have someone willing to do it for America.
Dissent is patriotic, y’all.


74 posted on 08/16/2011 7:04:39 AM PDT by Rytas
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To: dan on the right

I don’t think a congressman or a freshman senator is a wise pick for VP. Obama should be attacked for his incompetence as much as for his ideology. The argument should be that it was a mistake to elect a president with such little (none) executive experience. Having a similarly underqualified person running as understudy negates that whole line of attack.


75 posted on 08/16/2011 7:05:41 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: dan on the right

To each his or her own.

I admire Perry so far. A strong, engaged and strong willed GOP field is a very good thing.

I am very enthused Perry is starting out this way.

I’ll be supporting Palin if she runs, and will support Perry as her running mate.


76 posted on 08/16/2011 7:08:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Huck

I don’t think the VP pick is going to be a congressman. I also don’t think a freshman senator makes a good choice, especially given the resume and performance of our current president.
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You have a point but VP picks tend to be political and I believe that 4 years as VP is enough OJT to turn either a 13 year Congressman or a freshman Senator into presidential material.


77 posted on 08/16/2011 7:10:11 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: Rytas

The Left calls the Right terrorists at the same time telling them to soften their rhetoric. Any violent act is pinned on the Right by the MSM. As Perry says, “....it’s time to stop trying to curry favor with the Left!”


78 posted on 08/16/2011 7:14:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: InterceptPoint

I don’t think it makes sense at all, and I don’t think it’s going to happen. We shall see. I HOPE it doesn’t happen, as it negates an entirely sound and workable line of attack, and would show a lack of judgment on the part of our presidential nominee. Find someone who already has relevant executive experience, someone who is already prepared to take the helm should the need arise. People are skittish. They want competence. It’s bad enough some of our voters think a MN Congressman should be president. Congressman from MN? Freshman senator? No thanks.


79 posted on 08/16/2011 7:15:19 AM PDT by Huck (Here's the bad news--Gov. Perry is the best we've got.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Karl Rove on Fox right now whining and bashing Perry.....why am I not surprised.


80 posted on 08/16/2011 7:17:24 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit
If Rick Perry gets in, will Karl Rove be out?
81 posted on 08/16/2011 7:20:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SMARTY

I would really not like to see Conservative candidates BECOME the petty and ugly voice in American politics that Liberals have become. It is not necessary

I know, it’s just the blatant hypocracy that gets to me sometimes. I hope that this “do as I say, not as I do” code of ethics they practice comes back to bite them.


82 posted on 08/16/2011 7:26:59 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Liberals are freaking out.

GOOD, I am slightly more impressed with Perry.

83 posted on 08/16/2011 7:29:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Surprise, surprise...CW


84 posted on 08/16/2011 7:29:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Huck

>> Rubio is not a good pick in my opinion <<

Don’t worry. He’s not eligible, because Vattel says he isn’t a natural-born citizen.


85 posted on 08/16/2011 7:30:04 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I think the greatest threat to our country right now is this president trying to spend his way out of this debt"

If someone finds this to be "eyebrow-raising rhetoric," at the time they must have been lying on the floor sweeping up cobwebs with their eyebrows.

86 posted on 08/16/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

[ Of course Bush’s boys are defending their arsonist at the Fed.

This shows Perry is not a Bushie, and he may well be a real conservative, unlike the fake Bush. ]

Perry could very well still be a “Bushie” and is just doing this to create “distance” from the old Bush Legacy. Perry is pretty slick.


87 posted on 08/16/2011 7:38:28 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too far?! He didn’t go far enough!!
Have we forgotten about how far Obama has gone in criticizing the “failed policies of the past 8 years”?


88 posted on 08/16/2011 7:42:19 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Huck

I agree.


89 posted on 08/16/2011 7:48:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Huck
I think Rubio was born here but he parents were not, so according to what I have read he is not eligible to be POTUS so he can't be VPOTUS.
90 posted on 08/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The administration, from the top on down, is loaded with socialists and or commies who are intent on destroying the economy of this country. The word treason is not that outlandish.


91 posted on 08/16/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT by kenmcg (pROBLEM)
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To: freeangel
Perry's associated with a Texas 'dream' type law passed 10 years ago with veto proof majorities and it was tightened up in 2005 unanimously by the legislature.

Here's an FR thread explaining the Texas dream law.

92 posted on 08/16/2011 8:19:32 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Wisconsin Vote Today: Kim Simac vs. fleebagger Holperin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I say Perry did not go too far.

(Along with deficits and amnesty, devaluing the dollar was on of my list of pet peeves under W.)

93 posted on 08/16/2011 8:25:50 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Wisconsin Vote Today: Kim Simac vs. fleebagger Holperin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What I would like to know is, what would he do to repeal Obamacare in case the SCOTUS doesn’t rule it unconstitutional. Would he Michele Bachman has made it pretty clear that it would be top of her agenda.


94 posted on 08/16/2011 8:25:55 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: murron
Perry signs health care reform bill into law; TX 4th state to pass health care compacts bill
95 posted on 08/16/2011 8:34:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Former Bush Official: Rick Perry Is The ‘Ice Cold Glass Of Water’ The GOP Needed

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-bush-official-nicole-wallace-rick-perry-is-the-ice-cold-glass-of-water-the-gop-needed/


96 posted on 08/16/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: murron

Rick Perry’s wife: “As an experienced political wife, Anita Perry has been stepping into the fray with her husband since he ran for the Texas House in 1984.

Holding a master’s degree in nursing, she worked as a nurse for 17 years.

Perry said his wife is worried how the new health care law will affect health care.”

Anita Perry’s father was a family doctor.

Perry has called for the repeal of Obamacare — that it is unconstitutional.


97 posted on 08/16/2011 8:49:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hotlanta Mike

9:20 into that interview comment about “cold glass of water” AND she defends Perry telling the media to ASK Obama (not him) if he loves America.


98 posted on 08/16/2011 8:57:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Huck

I’d be surprised to see her on any ticket at all.


99 posted on 08/16/2011 2:42:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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