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Rick Perry, Annotated
Weekly Standard ^ | August 29, 2011 | Andrew Ferguson, senior editor

Posted on 08/20/2011 3:49:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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And after reading this, I suspect Andrew Ferguson is pulling for Mitt Romney.
1 posted on 08/20/2011 3:49:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Your first link is to a GOP governor’s press conference where Rick Perry is not at all mean to Sarah, in fact he keeps encouraging her to step back to the microphone even as they’re being cued by event schedulers to cut it short.

When you do these kinds of postings you always overreach and it only reflects badly on your candidate — as it looks like you MUST lie (and you are more than willing to do so) to keep her viable.


3 posted on 08/20/2011 4:04:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Gov. Rick Perry’s father, J.R. “Ray” Perry a tenant cotton farmer, and his wife Amelia, now in their mid-80s, still reside in Paint Creek, Texas in the house Ray built.

......>>>The heart of the community is Paint Creek School, which was established in 1937 and has an enrollment of about 160, about 50 more than when Perry attended. "No Dream too Tall for a School so Small" is the school motto.<<<<..... Rick Perry's roots in little Paint Creek run deep

4 posted on 08/20/2011 4:06:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Do you never tire of posting that? And, more importantly, can you comprehend that no one is buy it? No one?


5 posted on 08/20/2011 4:07:25 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

“buying” [absolutely no morning coffee yet]


6 posted on 08/20/2011 4:17:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Diogenesis
When you do these kinds of postings you always overreach and it only reflects badly on your candidate — as it looks like you MUST lie (and you are more than willing to do so) to keep her viable.

Speaking of whoppers, CW ...... come on, Sarah doesn't need people to "lie" to "keep her viable". She's plenty viable, no matter what you or Rick Perry do or say.

Try something else.

7 posted on 08/20/2011 4:22:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Then why did he post that?


8 posted on 08/20/2011 4:23:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have such a head-ache!!! I just want that s.o.b Obama OUT of the White House.

Nearly ANY Republican would be an improvement!.

Perry is a middle of the roader. He’s far better than the Romney- Christie bunch. He probably has a better chance than some of the more conservative candidates we would prefer.

I would like to see a Perry/Bachmann or Bachmann/Perry ticket and I hope and pray Christie and Romney do not wind up ANYWHERE in Washington D.C.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 4:26:09 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: Clara Lou; Diogenesis
Do you never tire of posting that? And, more importantly, can you comprehend that no one is buy it? No one?

He's quoting Human Events, a conservative publication. Notice the quotation marks -- direct quotes.

Any reason "nobody" should "buy" it? Is it true, or not? If it isn't true, do you have a link to a better source than an eyewitness report in Human Events? Did he misquote them?

10 posted on 08/20/2011 4:26:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let me just say that I will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is vs. BHO. But, I am concerned that a sizeable number of independents WILL NOT vote for another Governor from Texas, period. Very probably sizeable enough to swing the election to BHO, no matter how much he screws the pooch. Is that fair to Rick Perry? No. But then life often isn’t fair.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 4:34:32 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

I like Perry...were he a Texan fresh on the national scene...no worries at all. But I guarandamnteeya..if he is the Republican nominee..that by August 2012...the general public won’t be able to tell him from Dubya...and the Independents will STAY HOME.


12 posted on 08/20/2011 4:39:43 AM PDT by mo
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To: Clara Lou

I had forgotten about that, glad he posted it.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 4:45:45 AM PDT by libbylu (Game On!)
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To: mo

Especially true if Rick Perry exhibits some of the same mannerisms as Bush. Nope, not fair at all. Just like it wasn’t fair to Jeb Bush that his brother ruined his chances of being POTUS. Or anyone else from the Bush family for at least 2 more generations. From everything I’ve read, Jeb might have done a much better job than W—but we’ll never know.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 4:48:57 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: mo

Not necessarily, I have an “obama voting but fed up” friend who absolutely hates Bush and is concerned about Perry for the exact reason you state, but he will vote for Perry if he is the candidate, or Mitt. I still have more convincing to do get him to confirm that he will vote for Palin too if she is the candidate.

The depth of Obama disgust among so many of those that voted for him is very deep, so deep that many of them would vote for George Bush over Obama if that was the choice.


15 posted on 08/20/2011 4:48:57 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This writer is a smarmy RINO who obviously back Romney.

It’s a hit piece, covered in ketchup.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 4:58:09 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: rbg81
But, I am concerned that a sizeable number of independents WILL NOT vote for another Governor from Texas,

Who WILL the "independents" go for? Give me a name.

17 posted on 08/20/2011 5:00:24 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o

Some will obviously go for BHO. Don’t underestimate the degree to which the MSM is in the tank for him or their influence. Starting in Sept 2012, they will pull out ALL the stops to get him reelected. Not sure if a majority will be fooled, but enough might be—especially the women. And that goes for college kids/Twenty somethings too. A lot of independents might also stay home or vote third party as a “pox on all your houses” protest.

Unlike many here, I think that BHO will be very hard to beat despite his poor performance. Its critical that we don’t nominate someone with an existing handicap among voters or someone who will self destruct (ala, McCain).


18 posted on 08/20/2011 5:11:53 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is an informative article and reasonably well balanced.

If Perry is the nominee, as I suspect he will be, he faces some hurtles from the standpoint of campaigning.

Due to his Christian beliefs, the left will make him a caricature of the southern evangelical. However, this is not a strategy without its risks to the left. Many people are increasingly angry about the entire liberal agenda and this could be viewed as extremely mean spirited.

They will also paint him as being Bush III. The problem here for them is that their guy is becoming so despised that even Bush III would be able to beat him.

Trying to attack Perry's economic record in the face of the national picture is a losing strategy for the Dems also. Obama has NO record to run on here.

The biggest issue will be turnout and that implies unity. If Perry can unite all factions of the Republicans and non-Republican conservatives, he will win handily. This should not be that difficult to do since I would hope almost anyone would welcome a “Conservative Democrat circa 1960” at this point.

19 posted on 08/20/2011 5:13:16 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: rbg81
Its critical that we don’t nominate someone with an existing handicap among voters or someone who will self destruct (ala, McCain).

And who would that be?

20 posted on 08/20/2011 5:17:03 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another GOP Ruling Class scribbler heard from because it’s “Romney’s turn.” How’d Dole and McCain work out for you, Andrew?


21 posted on 08/20/2011 5:19:24 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: HerrBlucher

“I still have more convincing to do get him to confirm that he will vote for Palin too if she is the candidate.”

Why don’t you wait and find out who the candidate is? Then you only have to convince your friend once.


22 posted on 08/20/2011 5:22:05 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: HerrBlucher

Of the current field of announced candidates, I think Romney is the safest bet. Is he perfect? No. But he is nominally electable and has the fewest handicaps going in.


23 posted on 08/20/2011 5:26:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If he only understood the danger posed by Shria.........

If he could only seal the border and deport the Mehhicccans (he IS the gov. after all)..................


24 posted on 08/20/2011 5:27:31 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: rbg81

“someone with an existing handicap among voters or someone who will self destruct...”

That’s a perfect description of obuma. I look forward to obuma’s brain publicly locking up in a psychopathic meltdown and spewing Hitler-like invectives. He’s come close a few times.


25 posted on 08/20/2011 5:27:41 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: jocon307

Because he is strongly anti Palin and the earlier I start the pro Palin campaign on him, the better. He still chuckles when I mention her name, as do his three sons who are also fed up Obama voters.

Sarah has her work cut out for her, and so do those that support her. But I think she can do it.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 5:29:03 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: rbg81

“Its critical that we don’t nominate someone with an existing handicap among voters or someone who will self destruct”

So, who should it be? What do you think?

Romney might have appeal (at least for now) to “independents” but he’s got NO support on the right. And, he couldn’t even beat McCain last time!

Palin’s negatives are THROUGH THE ROOF. As much as I like her I was very taken aback when a gal I work with, no big lib, said off the cuff about something “I really hate Sarah Palin but....” She did go on to defend Palin over some kerfuffle (I’m sorry I can’t remember what it was, some flap) but the way she said she “hated” her, it blew me away. I don’t know why people don’t like her, if the MSM just really destroyed her or what, but I’d be very hesitant to put my money on her.

Bachmann? She’s turning into a gaffe machine. I’ve sent her money, so it’s not like I can’t prove my support of her, but the Elvis thing was just s.t.u.p.i.d. I know it is a minor issue, but you really shouldn’t be making mistakes like that.

Santorum? Maybe, he could yet rise further.

Caine, Gingrich, Paul, these are all non-starters for various reasons.

So, those are the declared candidates plus Palin.

Well, I didn’t discuss Perry, but I’ll say he is looking like the not-Romney/not-Palin to me right now.

I don’t think Paul Ryan would be well served by getting in the race and I’m not sure the race would be well served by his entrance.

If Chris Christie leaves NJ to run for Pres. I will be really POed, and besides I don’t think he’ll play in Peoria. He’s very soft on the 2nd amendment and definitely no better on immigration than Perry.

So, I’ve blathered on, tell me what you think?


27 posted on 08/20/2011 5:32:42 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: sergeantdave

That’s a perfect description of obuma. I look forward to obuma’s brain publicly locking up in a psychopathic meltdown and spewing Hitler-like invectives. He’s come close a few times.


Don’t think so Sergeant. I thought that his scratch his mouth with his middle finger (while talking about McCain) was such a moment in the 2008 campaign. But the MSM covered for him good. And they will continue to do so. Any such rant that you mentioned will either be covered up or rationalized away. And the weak minded will just buy it.


28 posted on 08/20/2011 5:36:12 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

No, Romney is the candidate most likely to cause a third party run by a conservative. I can’t stand him and he is hardly any better than Obama, however, if we get a tea party house and senate we can keep him in check since he just blows with the wind anyway.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 5:36:37 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: rbg81
Jeb Bush signed the law that eventually allowed a judge to kill Terry Schindler Schiavo by withholding food and water.

I changed my mind about Jeb Bush during Terry's family's struggle to keep her alive.

30 posted on 08/20/2011 5:38:36 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Diogenesis
Thanks to you, CW, I finally clicked on Diogenesis link.

I gave him grief about a month ago for overselling the Gardisil negatives on a Perry thread, so now, having read the article, where is the lie CW? It's a news article giving info about an event that happened, one where Perry appears to have shut down her agreed upon time because she gobbled up all the oxygen in the room. A couple of people there were guoted, describing the Perry reaction as envy and narcissism gone awry.

If this didn't happen as described in the article, kindly give a link showing what DID happen.

31 posted on 08/20/2011 5:40:04 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: HerrBlucher
..........The depth of Obama disgust among so many of those that voted for him is very deep, so deep that many of them would vote for George Bush over Obama if that was the choice.

I agree.

32 posted on 08/20/2011 5:40:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jocon307

Romney might have appeal (at least for now to “independents” but he’s got NO support on the right. And, he couldn’t even beat McCain last time!


Exactly. The MSM pushed McCain hard in the primaries—precisely because they knew he’d self destruct in the General Election.

As for support on the Right, hate to say this, but they had better vote for whoever the Republican nominee is. Yeah, they can stay home and assure a BHO victory. You can say the same thing about those on the Left who think BHO isn’t Liberal enough. In the end, both extremes will will hold their nose and vote for the guy closest to their agenda.


33 posted on 08/20/2011 5:41:52 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
"independents"

Some will obviously go for BHO.

What, three?

34 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: johniegrad
This is an informative article and reasonably well balanced.......

It's snotty and Ferguson makes the "case" w/o all the facts -- just repeats talking points made by the Left -- for example the economy. Ferguson makes it sound like Texas is a trash heap with dirty air and ignorant, dirt-poor citizens.

Suggested reading for Andrew Ferguson and others (that IS balanced):

Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry

35 posted on 08/20/2011 5:47:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jocon307

I actually think Christie would be a very good choice. He is smart and a very effective, plain spoken speaker. I have seen numerous clips where he just demolishes his detractors, but in an logical, respectful way (not vicious). I think Christie is the one person that BHO would be absolutely terrified of. If they ever debated each other, Christie would clean BHOs clock.


36 posted on 08/20/2011 5:47:45 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: ZULU

I basically agree with Zulu - anything to get Zero out of the White House. If Zero gets another term, the country is literally doomed.

Some other reactions:
The choice is not between France and Texas. The choice is between Chicago and Texas. I lived in Texas for ten years. It’s got problems, but I’d be happy to live there again. No way would I live in Chicago.

If I could appoint the next President,I would appoint Sarah Palin. However,I might not be doing her a favor. I’m convinced that whoever wins in 2012 will leave office four years later absolutely hated. Our problems are that big.

Federalism - in a renewed, revised, and amended form, maybe like Switzerland - is probably our only salvation. Because if the whole of the country were like Chicago (I’ve been there,) or California (I was born there,) I wouldn’t want to live in this country.

Secession: Thomas Jefferson envisioned not a country from sea to shining sea, but a multiplicity of republics in North America. We may yet come to that.


37 posted on 08/20/2011 5:51:23 AM PDT by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: Lakeshark
Originally posted at "Huffington Post" (now deactivated) as "Palin's First Press Conference Cut Short (VIDEO)" -- And then hyped by Palin supporters to hurt Rick Perry.

YouTube: Palin's RGA Press Conference

Look at it. There are many governor's there who had been speaking to the media. This video clip shows Sarah Palin's time at the mic and there is nothing but respect and encouragement given her by Rick Perry.

38 posted on 08/20/2011 6:04:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lentulusgracchus
You might be surprised at how many people feel that Palin is not ready for this. Listening to my friends I hear this over and over “I really like her but let her run for something else first and gain more experience”.
39 posted on 08/20/2011 6:06:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rbg81

“I actually think Christie would be a very good choice”

Well, you are right, Christie is a fantastic public speaker.

I worked on a congressional campaign last year (a losing one, despite all the tea party upheaval, NJ is so well gerry mandered that ALL our incumbent congress critters were ret’d to office) and Christie spoke at a little rally right at the end of the campaign.

He was FANTASTIC!

I came home raving to hubby “Now I see why people want him to run for President!”

The group was largely a tea party group and many, many (maybe most) had not voted for him in the primary (I did), and I’m pretty sure he knew that.

But, nevertheless, he spoke to that group in the most perfect way, directly to their concerns, praised their efforts, urged them to do more, etc.

The man really has a gift. Even though he never even looked over in my direction, nevertheless I felt he was speaking directly to me. Right to my heart.

Now, that sounds a little over the top, I realize, but that was how I felt, I am not exaggerating.

Aside from that experience, he’s really lived up to my expectations. I voted for Christie because he is fat. I said to myself, a guy like that, so heavy, people are so prejudiced against fat people, but he’s been so successful, he must have a talent for working with people, for getting his way, for getting things done.

So far as can be expected, I think, he’d done that.

And, we need him and you can’t have him!


40 posted on 08/20/2011 6:11:33 AM PDT by jocon307
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.........If Chris Christie leaves NJ to run for Pres. I will be really POed, and besides I don’t think he’ll play in Peoria. He’s very soft on the 2nd amendment and definitely no better on immigration than Perry.

And I think Christie is fuzzy on global warming. He and Perry are good on going after teacher unions.

41 posted on 08/20/2011 6:13:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rbg81
Of the current field of announced candidates, I think Romney is the safest bet. Is he perfect? No. But he is nominally electable and has the fewest handicaps going in.

ORomneycare is his worst disaster. He isn't even a RINO, he is a dim with an (r) behind his name. You may get the ZOT for that reply. Just say no to mittens.

42 posted on 08/20/2011 6:20:36 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It doesn’t seem inflammatory to me. There’s nothing wrong with knowing what the opposition will be arguing about. This article would certainly not deter me for voting or supporting Perry.


43 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:25 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: HerrBlucher

Many of those would love W to be in the WH now...his unemployment numbers were outstanding compared to this mongrel. He also didn’t destroy jobs or the economy on purpose. So yes, they’d vote Perry easily.


44 posted on 08/20/2011 6:29:06 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: johniegrad

Bump


45 posted on 08/20/2011 6:42:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rbg81
Same thing was said about Jimmy Carter if the economy is still in the sewer Obama is a dead duck...The MSM carries very little wait anymore compared to when Carter was up and even they could not save the peanut man!!!!
46 posted on 08/20/2011 6:42:58 AM PDT by ontap
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To: jocon307

Christie is great in NJ but I’m not sure he would play well in the south or west!!! He’s pretty liberal on some issues.


47 posted on 08/20/2011 6:45:48 AM PDT by ontap
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To: rbg81

” Any such rant that you mentioned will either be covered up or rationalized away.”

A psychotic rant by obuma won’t be covered up. It will cheered and broadcast 24/7 by his insane ideologue followers because that’s what his fascist rat worshipers want. Count on it. After the useful idiots realize what happened, it will be too late.


48 posted on 08/20/2011 6:48:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ping


49 posted on 08/20/2011 6:51:53 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: sergeantdave

. It will cheered and broadcast 24/7 by his insane ideologue followers because that’s what his fascist rat worshipers want.


You’re probably right if you’re talking about MSNBC and a handful of liberal radio shows. Nowhere else though.


50 posted on 08/20/2011 7:33:25 AM PDT by rbg81
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