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Trial lawyers prep for war on Perry
Politico ^ | August 22, 2011 | ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 08/22/2011 1:48:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Nervous Tick
Yeah? So you think Congress has the right to exceed the limits of the Commerce Clause when it's something you agree with? That's nice to know. It completely contradicts the stated mission of FreeRepublic, which states the following:

"We at Free Republic are determined to return the Constitution to its rightful place as the Supreme Law of the land as the Founders intended."

"A return to a strictly Constitutional form of federal government will automatically repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment. The Tenth Amendment will again be in effect, which will bar all federal attempts at legislating social issues. This will also require that social programs such as Social Security, welfare and Medicare be repealed. So too, will most federal subsidies."

I think I fit in just fine here.

P.S. -- do you support the Brady Bill and the federal Assault Weapons Ban? I do not. Those blatantly anti-gun pieces of legislation were passed by Congress using the same proposed authority (the Commerce Clause).

21 posted on 08/22/2011 3:16:31 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

I certainly don’t have a crystal ball, and I don’t speak for Perry but you are correct that he is better on this and has the best chance to win, so your questions are valid - we all should look forward.

Here is a YouTube video I found about Perry speaking on “Stronger Lawsuit Reforms for Texas”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc4-64iZans


22 posted on 08/22/2011 3:16:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Nervous Tick

I can’t think of one domestic policy position of his that I disagree with except for DADT. He supported repealing it, and I did not. He is completely wrong on foreign policy, however, and if he were ever to be elected President, this country would be screwed. I’m not supporting him for President anyway. I am a Palin supporter.


23 posted on 08/22/2011 3:19:36 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
Companies have a remedy when state courts permit phony lawsuits. They can withdraw from doing business in a state that has an oppressive tort regime.

Not correct. See http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_04_17-2005_04_23.shtml#1114111634

And this law imposes liability for manufacturing and distributing semiautomatic weapons even if the manufacturers and dealers are distributing the guns far outside D.C., in a jurisdiction where the guns are perfectly legal -- and semiautomatic guns are legal nearly everywhere in the U.S.

24 posted on 08/22/2011 3:19:58 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Nervous Tick

He’s either a liberal-libertarian ideologue with a dash of neocon, or a disrupter troll “Palin supporter”.


25 posted on 08/22/2011 3:24:15 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good find. Bump for later reading.


26 posted on 08/22/2011 3:26:59 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Out of curiosity, I just took that little political test you have in your profile. The results are in my profile: "I am a far-right moderate social libertarian Right: 9.09, Libertarian: 1.15."

Sounds like I am in the right place.

27 posted on 08/22/2011 3:27:10 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: palmer

The strongest argument for the constitutionality of the legislation, in my opinion, is actually of the minor, proposed arguments that Volokh made — namely that the lawsuits were jeopardizing the ability of the people to keep and bear arms, which is protected under the Second Amendment of the United States, which was recently incorporated to the states via McDonald v. Chicago. I think the legislation actually passes constitutional muster under that argument, so the Commerce Clause argument is irrelevant.


28 posted on 08/22/2011 3:32:17 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

So you support the legislation? What about the fact that the lawsuits were designed simply to put firearms makers out of business, isn’t that a restriction of commerce by one state (or district) against the state with that firearms maker?


29 posted on 08/22/2011 3:35:09 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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How exactly am I a liberal-libertarian ideologue with a dash of neocon? I’ve never had a conservative accuse me of being a neocon before. I thought it was the liberals and the Paulites who were obsessed with the neocons. I would categorize myself as a conservative-libertarian, or a libertarian (small-L) Republican, like Milton Friedman.


30 posted on 08/22/2011 3:35:53 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: palmer

Not in my opinion. I take a very narrow view of the Commerce Clause. But we agree on its constitutional now anyway, so it is irrelevant. I have seen the Commerce Clause perverted by liberals too many times (the most recent example is with ObamaCare), so I am hardly eager to take an expansive view of federal power via that avenue.


31 posted on 08/22/2011 3:37:23 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Consistency would mean supporting Ron Paul in all of his arguments against foreign intervention. You are being inconsistent, so you are motivated by other things than “libertarianism”.


32 posted on 08/22/2011 3:39:29 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry deserves a lot of credit if he has stood against the zombie horde of lawyers that is killing the country.


33 posted on 08/22/2011 4:14:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow! If trial lawyers AND the NEA are against him.....he MUST be good!


34 posted on 08/22/2011 4:38:37 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

I don’t get your point...defending the second amendment is every bit as important as defending the tenth amendment.


35 posted on 08/22/2011 4:41:36 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
America’s trial lawyers are getting ready to make the case against one of their biggest targets in years: Texas Gov. Rick Perry. ..... Among litigators, there is no presidential candidate who inspires the same level of hatred – and fear – as Perry .... And if Perry ends up as the Republican nominee for president, deep-pocketed trial lawyers intend to play a central role in the campaign to defeat him.

Dear 'Trial Lawyers',
Go ahead, make Perry's millennium.

You scum sucking bottom feeders are detested by 97.926% of every breathing human in America. And the ONLY reason you're still around is that you've rigged the Legal System so your presence in a court of law is required. [Note: Not Wanted.]

So knock yourselves out. You'll be committing a modern day version of 'Calling Out' Wild Bill Hickok for a gunfight(1).

(1) Historical note 'Trial Lawyers' -- Hickok never lost a gunfight.
(personally, I'd think about that. but that's just me)

36 posted on 08/22/2011 4:41:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: ontap

I actually think that the legislation is constitutional on the basis of protecting our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. That argument doesn’t apply, however, to any non-firearms related tort legislation that Congress attempts to pass at the federal level. That should be the province of states.


37 posted on 08/22/2011 4:43:50 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But more important is the myth that we’re doing great down here, when we’re not. We’re falling behind the rest of the country, and the country is falling behind the rest of the world.

"We????" Who is this "we?"

38 posted on 08/22/2011 4:45:45 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Trial Lawyers will do whatever is in their powers to sidetrack Perry. He has been a throne in their side for the last few years and Texas has slowly gotten then under control starting even before Perry was Gov. Trial lawyers are no friend of the conservative side no matter who the candidate becomes.


39 posted on 08/22/2011 4:47:39 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WOW!! The more I see his ENEMIES, the more I LIKE him!!


40 posted on 08/22/2011 4:53:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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