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SAN FRANCISCO: Not many of us natives left here in adventure land
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/23/11 | Carl Nolte, Chronicle Columnist

Posted on 08/23/2011 8:51:25 AM PDT by SmithL

I ran into a man I'd known for years at a supermarket the other day. He's an old San Francisco guy, so I was surprised at what he said.

"I'm moving out of the city," he said. "San Francisco is not the city I grew up in anymore. I'm through with it.

"Yep," he said, "I'm gonna sell my house and move to Novato. You know what? The sun shines there in the summer. I mean they have sun - that big yellow thing - sun in July and August. I'm tired of the fog - fog every night and every morning. We don't have to live like that.

"You know what else they have in Novato? Quiet. You ought to try my street. Traffic all the time, sirens. The other night, some guy in a big motorcycle turned around in my driveway at 2 a.m. Revved up the engine. Two in the damned morning. I couldn't go back to sleep. That's it, I said to myself. See ya, San Francisco."

What else? "The bums, the dirty streets. It's not worth it anymore," he said.

The other night at the baseball park, I heard the same thing. An usher, all decked out in Giants gear, a big "San Francisco" all over his warm-up jacket, was talking to a fan, one of his friends.

"I lived in San Francisco all my life," he was saying. "I love the city. But I moved to Burlingame last year. It's quieter, it's better. You get off late from work and don't have to park in the garage, you can park right on the street. You don't have to worry about some guy you've never seen before coming up the block in your direction late at night.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: baghdadbythebay; homelessindustry; homosexualagenda; sanctuaryfrancisco; sanfrancisco; sanfranpsycho; sanfransicko; snafranciscovalues; socialistparadise; sodomandgomorrah; specialcity
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To: dangerdoc

In my almost 50 years experience here it is the out-of-staters that ruined The City and the state, less so the natives. Invariably, when you talk to the loons, you find out that they or their parents are from other states.

Now, as the state crashes and burns, many of these same people are heading to your state in order to ruin it.


21 posted on 08/23/2011 9:23:57 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Morpheus2009
“Wasn’t it originally a gambling/mining town anyways?”

The Gold Rush. The decadent Barbary Coast came from all of the people and money pouring in.

By the way a lot of good comments on the Sfgate website about the article.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/comments/view?f=/c/a/2011/08/20/MN641KON8S.DTL

22 posted on 08/23/2011 9:26:34 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: SmithL
SF: a very beautiful but very broken city.
23 posted on 08/23/2011 9:28:03 AM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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To: SmithL
I was transferred by the Navy to Oakland in 1962. When I checked in the topic of San Francisco (The City) came up and I was told to always dressnice when going there. The ladies always dressed to the nines..gloves and all for a day of shopping, the men wore suits and hats. Being young I got by with slacks a nice shirt and a sweater if it was cool. After the service I stayed in the Bay Area until 2001 and watched it go down.

For a while we enjoyed going to The City but after the hippy movement took over we went less and less. Now about the only thing I miss are the great views and good sour dough bread.

24 posted on 08/23/2011 9:31:12 AM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: SmithL

Was a route driver in SF three times a week. The other two days was in Fremont and Oakland. This was during the late 80’s. The things I saw from my truck can’t be posted here. Can’t imagine how things may have gotten even worse there since those days.

It’s really a shame because the city used to be a fine place to visit during the 60’s and 70’s. For a martial arts junkie, Chinatown was the best.

Moved out of California during the early 90’s and haven’t looked back.


25 posted on 08/23/2011 9:32:15 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: SmithL

You mean it’s not a liberal utopia?


26 posted on 08/23/2011 9:33:01 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I visited San Francisco just under twenty years ago. I really loved that town. Such a shame its fallen on hard times.


27 posted on 08/23/2011 9:37:28 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Oldexpat

Took the wife there with me on business a couple years ago. The Embarcadero, business district and tourist areas were nice. Full of hot chicks in heels and other nice scenery. I also always like to see the non tourist areas when I hit a place. They were a disaster area. The Tenderloin was like an open sewer. Human debris everywhere. Stank of urine and was what the people in the story describe.

I would rather walk around Harlem then that area again. I am pretty street wise and even I was worried around there.


28 posted on 08/23/2011 9:52:52 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SmithL
I've visited SF on 4 occasions roughly seven years apart, the first having been in 1980. In retrospect, what I saw was like one of those time-lapse movies where an orange goes bad, gets moldy and grotty and eventually collapses into a heap of crud. The town was clean and pretty back in 80. The streets weren't exactly quiet, but they were fairly safe and you didn't have to worry about needing brain bleach just from seeing the passers-by. When I was there just recently it kind of reminded me of the dystopian city in Blade Runner. I didn't feel safe even in the business district, and even Golden Gate Park has become a swarming anthill of unspeakable flaming creatures and sullen, staring 'hoods.

I plan to go back in the next year to visit the Missile Site SF-88 Museum, but I'm staying in Sausalito.

29 posted on 08/23/2011 9:57:48 AM PDT by jboot
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To: BO Stinkss

A liberal utopia is exactly what it is.


30 posted on 08/23/2011 10:05:21 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: Owl558

My wife is a native of the area, we used to visit a lot up until the 90’s.

I met a lot of nice natives in the city. but almost unformly, they prided themselves on not being judgmental and they went out of their way to let the loons come in and take over their city, then felt somehow proud that they had such diversity.

My wife wants to move back. After the fires from the riots quit burning, we may look for a small place to retire.


31 posted on 08/23/2011 10:15:40 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: SmithL

“Like California overall, but more so,” SF attracts takers and repels (and excretes) makers.


32 posted on 08/23/2011 10:23:08 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Huskrrrr

We can always squeeze in a few more. Follow I-70 east and get off in Terre Haute.


33 posted on 08/23/2011 11:17:39 AM PDT by Wordkraft
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To: engrpat

The bread is available online. ;-)


34 posted on 08/23/2011 12:48:51 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: SmithL

Going down to the Wharf in two weeks for dinner at Alioto’s. Staying on the Embarcadero hotels and maybe take in a ballgame at ATT Park.

I’ve been in downtown, don’t want to go back. I’ll go shopping in Vacaville or Roseville.


35 posted on 08/23/2011 12:54:53 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: SmithL

It’s the perfect symbol of liberalism. It’s what they want to do with the rest of the country. This is utopia for them. They live in squalor and want everyone else to live that way too.

It’s starting to be that even the liberal roaches can’t stand the mess they made. Too late to wake up now libs, you made the bed now you sleep in it. They will just do the same thing to any city they move to. It will follow them like a plague.


36 posted on 08/23/2011 1:09:33 PM PDT by RickB444 (What one receives without working for, another must work for without receiving.)
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To: hattend

I know and have it sent via UPS about every other month. It is an addiction, gotta have it.


37 posted on 08/23/2011 2:43:31 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: SmithL

When I was a kid in the early Sixties and my family visited friends in San Francisco, it was a beautiful city. I remember people all dressed well, especially the women, and it was beautiful, cultured and clean. Lots of wonderful restaurants.

That’s all gone now. I really think the death knell was the conjunction of the start of Haight-Ashbury hippiedom and the growing homosexual ghetto in the Castro. Basically, over time the freaks drove all the respectable people out of the City.


38 posted on 08/23/2011 9:38:28 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: SmithL
The view from a recently sold condo on Russian Hill. Say what you will but that would be nice.


39 posted on 08/24/2011 12:55:00 AM PDT by tlb
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