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To: muawiyah

Yet you are totally discounting the fact that membership in the Nation is based on BLOOD, not federal law. That was part of that Treaty! Membership in the nation was based on having a BLOOD RELATIVE on the census roll at the time! It’s still that way TODAY! Even if you have a blood relative on that census roll, you cannot be a voting member of the Cherokee Nation unless your BLOOD is not diluted more than 1/8th. My children are the last in our line that can have voting rights on Cherokee Nation issues with their 1/8th bloodline. My grandchldren with their 1/16th blood line can’t even a piece of paper acknowledging their distant relative as being a member of the Nation anymore!


6 posted on 08/24/2011 7:58:23 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
Blood Quantum is the way the white folks and indigenous folks get on the rolls ~ and that's based on the white man's list called the Dawes Rolls.

The Treaty with the United States let's the black folks have all the same rights.

BTW, all those black descendants probably have as many Cherokee ancestors as the white ones.

There's a Mohawk group in Canada who want to do a one time only elimination of the blood quantum for all Indians, and let people chose their identities.

Then they close the books again and those issues are settled for a generation.

Some groups (e.g. other Iroquois) keep the membership rolls secret so someone whose folks got away from the tribe would probably have to prove decent with birth records and such. There's a Pocahontas Society made up of descendants of Pocahontas (actually the Powhatan Indian Tribe). They've been around a long time and are not recognized as a tribe.

The little blue card does have some value to some people I guess, but to most the certified birth records have more value.

More important than all of that a good number of North American Indian groups have the X-Factor DNA sequence that denotes Sa'ami ancestry. That's the kind of list you want to be on ~ have it inscribed in your very genome.

7 posted on 08/24/2011 8:21:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RowdyFFC
Used to be American law recognized 1/32 as sufficient to categorize any non-white person. Louisiana and several other Southern states codified that number, but others did it as an ordinary practice.

Amazing that the Cherokee would allow themselves to disappear like that ~

15 posted on 08/24/2011 10:07:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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