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That CO2 warming the world: Lock it in a rock
AP/WorldMag ^ | Aug 28, 12:01 AM EDT | CHARLES J. HANLEY

Posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:54 PM PDT by quantim

HELLISHEIDI, Iceland (AP) -- Sometime next month, on the steaming fringes of an Icelandic volcano, an international team of scientists will begin pumping "seltzer water" into a deep hole, producing a brew that will lock away carbon dioxide forever.

Chemically disposing of CO2, the chief greenhouse gas blamed for global warming, is a kind of 21st-century alchemy that researchers and governments have hoped for to slow or halt climate change.

The American and Icelandic designers of the "CarbFix" experiment will be capitalizing on a feature of the basalt rock underpinning 90 percent of Iceland: It is a highly reactive material that will combine its calcium with a carbon dioxide solution to form limestone - permanent, harmless limestone.

The researchers caution that their upcoming 6-to-12-month test could fall short of expectations, and warn against looking for a climate "fix" from CarbFix any year soon.

In fact, one of the objectives of the project, whose main sponsors are Reykjavik's city-owned utility and U.S. and Icelandic universities, is to train young scientists for years of work to come.

A scientific overseer of CarbFix - the man, as it happens, who also is credited with coining the term "global warming" four decades ago - says the world's failure to heed those early warnings, to rein in greenhouse-gas emissions from coal, gasoline and other fossil fuels, is driving scientists to drastic approaches.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; manbearpig

1 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:56 PM PDT by quantim
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To: steelyourfaith

More nonsense on starving plants.


2 posted on 08/27/2011 9:10:57 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

You’ll find rocks in Al Gore’s head. Not that you really need them for CO2 of course.


3 posted on 08/27/2011 9:12:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: quantim

You’ll find rocks in Al Gore’s head. Not that you really need them for CO2 of course.


4 posted on 08/27/2011 9:12:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: quantim

Without carbon dioxide, plants and trees can’t make oxygen.

We’re all gonna die.


5 posted on 08/27/2011 9:12:51 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: quantim
The American and Icelandic designers of the "CarbFix" experiment will be capitalizing on a feature of the basalt rock underpinning 90 percent of Iceland

In other words, it's a scam. Iceland hopes to get rich off the stupidity of larger, richer nations.

6 posted on 08/27/2011 9:15:28 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: jwalsh07
CO2 has been living as obsession in Al Gore's head for a decade. In fact, by now that may be all that is in Al Goreghoul's head!
7 posted on 08/27/2011 9:17:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Salamander; All

8 posted on 08/27/2011 9:37:11 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: quantim
The researchers caution that their upcoming 6-to-12-month test could fall short of expectations, and warn against looking for a climate "fix" from CarbFix any year soon.

In fact, one of the objectives of the project, whose main sponsors are Reykjavik's city-owned utility and U.S. and Icelandic universities, is to train young scientists for years of work to come.

Power companies, oil companies etc. love environmentalists. It's a way of increasing prices without having to produce more product and then blame environmental policies for not doing it..

Name one other industry that publicly asks you to use/buy less of their product.

9 posted on 08/27/2011 9:45:29 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Cobra64

Yep.

We’re dead.

[so...how do I stockpile oxygen...anybody know?]


10 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:23 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: quantim

FIXIN’_WHAT_AIN’T_BROKE_PING!


11 posted on 08/27/2011 10:00:02 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: quantim

Most of the carbon on this planet is locked up in carbonate rocks, and not in the atmosphere or fossil fuels. Even if you burned every last bit of hydrocarbon fuel you could get your hands on, you could never bring the atmospheric CO2 back up to prehistoric levels. That is plant food locked up and out of reach, the remains of a much greener, livelier, warmer earth.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 10:00:29 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: quantim

13 posted on 08/27/2011 10:02:41 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: quantim

The next thing they will be doing is taking the fizz out of my beer and storing it in rocks. You don’t call these people having rocks for brains for nothing.


14 posted on 08/27/2011 10:02:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: jonrick46

“N0, you can’t” have carbonated beverages. Global warming!


15 posted on 08/27/2011 10:33:49 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (FFFFFFFFOOO!)
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To: lewislynn

“Power companies, oil companies etc. love environmentalists.”

Lewis, you have an interesting viewpoint, and I happen to agree with it! I operate a Public Utility. A water company. Our profits are fixed by the Public Utilities Commission as a percentage. Right now it’s about 12%. But, to make things easy, lets say,,, around 10%. So, if it costs us $90 to produce and deliver a certain amount of water, we can charge about $100 for it. $10 profit. If the government and the epa (I hate them!) increase our costs through regulation to the point that that same “certain amount of water” costs us $180 to produce and deliver, well, at 10%, our profits are now about $20! They can even make a percentage cut, and we still make out like bandits!


16 posted on 08/27/2011 10:40:35 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Uh huh, and when you ask your customers to conserve their usage and they comply, you raise the price on reduced production to maintain (actually maximize) your profit.

Now you have increased supply, reduced usage/production and increased profit.

It's no secret (at least not to me) that it's a business model.

17 posted on 08/27/2011 10:56:39 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: quantim

Stimulus money going down a real hole.


18 posted on 08/27/2011 11:08:05 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: lewislynn

“you ask your customers to conserve their usage and they comply, you raise the price on reduced production to maintain (actually maximize) your profit.”

Abdo-lutely correct lewis! But it’s not my doing, or my preferred policy. I hate the epa, and have to deal with them on a constant basis. I have always felt that my primary responsibility is to the health and safety of our customers. The guys I work for have that somewhat down on their list of priorities. But,,, that’s the way things work right now. I can’t do a damn thing about it. I just try to live up to my true responsibilities.


19 posted on 08/27/2011 11:26:14 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: quantim

“Fracking to save the planet” - I like the sound of that.


20 posted on 08/28/2011 1:18:24 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: eclecticEel

Throw in some horsesh-t and a scienceist or 2 and they may get somewhere.


21 posted on 08/28/2011 3:32:03 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: quantim
permanent, harmless limestone.

There are some very large holes around the world in what used to be limestone. They're called caves.

When the limestone dissolved in water, I suspect the carbon goes back into the atmo.

Perhaps limestone isn't always permanent?

22 posted on 08/28/2011 3:54:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: quantim
In fact, one of the objectives of the project, whose main sponsors are Reykjavik's city-owned utility and U.S. and Icelandic universities, is to train young scientists for years of work to come.

I don't what it is, but it's gonna be expensive.

23 posted on 08/28/2011 4:48:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Don’t regulators attempt to hold ROI (return on investment) fixed, not profit margins? I knew a guy who, in a previous life, had been an FCC regulator who worked the AT&T account. He admits that they were never sure what a rotary dial handset cost Western Electric, so they could never be sure how much to allow the phone company to rent it to you.


24 posted on 08/28/2011 5:06:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Cobra64

LOL! Great graphic on Gore!

(As an aside, let me just say that I find it hard to place any credibility in a story that comes from a place called Hell Is Heidi. But I would like to know more about Heidi. She must have been something.)


25 posted on 08/28/2011 5:22:37 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: factoryrat
Even if you burned every last bit of hydrocarbon fuel you could get your hands on, you could never bring the atmospheric CO2 back up to prehistoric levels.

I've been saying this for years. Nobody seems to get it, not even on the anti-AGW side. If they did get it, it would be a centerpiece of the argument that CO2 can't possibly destroy the planet.

At the rate we are burning fossil fuels, we have hundreds or even thousands of years before we would burn the known reserves. That doesn't include the unknown reserves that are undoubtedly out there in the vast planet, some/most being under the seas.

So our CO2 add back to the atmosphere is exceedingly slow compared to the quantity of carbon available in the fossil fuel inventory. And by the time we would have depleted the fossil fuels that currently exist, more would have been formed by natural processes on the global scale of the carbon cycle.

There is nothing to worry about...use fossil fuels and forget this ridiculous carbon sequestering nonsense. It is a cost for nothing and as you point out, it converts carbon to a form that is a dead-end of the carbon cycle if it is successful.

They like to say we are using the natural resources unfairly, depriving future generations. Well, killing the carbon cycle IS depriving future generations.

26 posted on 08/28/2011 7:01:38 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Smart Grid is Stupid)
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To: steelyourfaith

AGW PING


27 posted on 08/28/2011 7:07:35 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Smart Grid is Stupid)
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To: quantim

So when the earth starts to die due to lack of co2 then what? You know my theory on the hole in the ozone layer has always been it is the earths way of letting out uneeded chemicals. Granted I am no scientist but I have stayed in a holiday express before.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 9:34:23 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: quantim

>>the “CarbFix” experiment will be capitalizing

But wait -— Isn’t this process much like that by which Comrade Al Gore intended to “fix” many deneros in his bank account ala his carbon-trading enterprise?

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=al+gore+carbon+trading+exchange+CCX

Yep. Thought so.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:27:28 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Excellent point.

Guess they are counting on other layers of rock to do the dirty work.


30 posted on 08/28/2011 5:50:01 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
Thanx for the ping quantim !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

31 posted on 08/28/2011 11:32:12 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: SteamShovel
Thanx for the ping SteamShovel !
32 posted on 08/28/2011 11:34:32 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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