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To: Savage Beast

I provided facts, you provide leftist talking points. We had a long period of growth and low unemployment. He ended up making two excellent USSC nominees, and slew of other good judicial nominees.

You are way over-blowing his spending problems. He was not good on the issue, and was not a champion of cutting or limiting government, but your multiplying the problem by many magnitudes. The deficit was shrinking down towards 100 billion in his last couple years with Republican majorities. After the 9/11 years, necessary military action and sputtering economy that resulted, the deficit ballooned, and then came back down.

They still should have done much, much better when we had majorities in both houses. It was a missed opportunity, but not historically out of whack. You seem to ignore that the vast portions of spending are established entitlement spending. We can probably all agree that the prescription drug program was not desirable, but he ran on it and won with the issues. It also was a well constructed program that has come in below budget and at lower costs, and is cited in Ryan’s program as a better model than the rest of Medicare.

Bottom line, spouting leftist talking points about Bush are completely unnecessary and incorrect. Bush’s presidency was a mixed bag, and a lot of us are frustrated with decisions by both the White House and the Congress during that time, but we had a lot of positive results during that time, and historically the first 4-5 years will be seen as very positive. The second term was a political failure first and foremost, and a governing failure in that little to nothing in domestic legislation was accomplished.


149 posted on 08/29/2011 12:58:28 PM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: ilgipper
"Blah blah blah! Leftist talking points! Blah Blah Blah!"

I'm the opposite of a Leftist, and I don't use "talking points."

The Bush Presidency was a failure. It would have been a failure if he had done everything right except REFUSE to halt illegal immigration.

But he failed at other things as well-notably the economy--reducing entitlements--and restraining, not to mention reducing, the size, reach scope, and appetite of that Frankenstein's Monster known as the Federal Government!

You have merely proved that you are incapable--or unwilling--to think for yourself and that all you intend to do is spout off tired old dogma that the facts have disproven, and you have demonstrated that Leftists are not the only ones who are slaves to groupthink.

(Tongue extended. Sides of mouth stretched by index fingers.)

152 posted on 08/29/2011 3:19:39 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: ilgipper

“talking points about Bush are completely unnecessary”

Some of us don’t want to see a repeat of Dubya’s reign of error. That means we need to examine the past, air the dirty laundry and pledge to do better. Covering up Bush’s abysmal administration is no way to start.


154 posted on 08/29/2011 6:21:14 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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