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To: riverrunner

I love the discussions in these threads.

It still makes no sense to me. If a good size bear is coming after me, why wouldn’t thirteen rapidly fired .45 ACP rounds at least give the bear pause? Or at least slow it down for a reload of the NEXT thirteen. Wash, rinse, repeat until out of ammo. I’d think that if at least half of the bullets hit on target.....

I’m not wanting to start an argument here. I’m just saying: It makes no sense to me.


58 posted on 08/29/2011 3:32:39 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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To: RandallFlagg
It still makes no sense to me. If a good size bear is coming after me, why wouldn’t thirteen rapidly fired .45 ACP rounds at least give the bear pause? Or at least slow it down for a reload of the NEXT thirteen. Wash, rinse, repeat until out of ammo. I’d think that if at least half of the bullets hit on target.....I’m not wanting to start an argument here. I’m just saying: It makes no sense to me.

It's pretty simple, I think. Bears run very fast. And if they're running very fast straight at you you'll be lucky to get off even one shot, much less twenty-six. And then there's the question of hitting him. And then, if it's a grizzly, there's the question of whether or not hitting him makes any difference at all before you're dinner.

62 posted on 08/29/2011 4:01:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the opposite direction.')
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To: RandallFlagg
I am all for having a firearm I think that if you read all my posts you well find that out. I load a 250gr keith hard cast SWC bullet in my 45acp.

At 900fps I wouldn't have any trouble driving one of them through a bears skull. I think You are confusing my posts with the party I am posting too.

Any fire arm is better than no firearm.

77 posted on 08/29/2011 6:50:50 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: RandallFlagg

I previously read a very convincing article recommending
revolvers over pistols for bears because if a bear manages
to overrun you, his hair will clog that slide action on pistols.

That would render you helpless, while the more “primitive”
revolver action could keep firing away. Made sense to me!

JC


84 posted on 08/29/2011 9:49:24 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: RandallFlagg

Not enough penetration, and you are unlikely to get off more than a couple of well placed shots if surprised by a grizzly.

Those couple shots need to be powerful.

25mph is about 36 feet per second. A bear that is 30 yards from you, will reach you in well under 3 seconds if makes an effort. More like 2 seconds, because they can really move when they charge.

You need to draw and aim and fire in under two seconds for a bear that is 30 yards away and charging you.

Even if he’s a whole football field away, he’s going to be on you in just a few seconds. Plus, when he’s farther away, he’s a smaller target. They have been clocked at 35mph in a charge, which is 51 feet per second. Meaning just 6 seconds to cover a football field.


91 posted on 08/30/2011 7:23:49 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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