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Bert and Ernie: best buddies in an over-sexualized culture
Life Site News ^ | August 29, 2011 | CHUCK COLSON

Posted on 08/29/2011 2:41:07 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/29/2011 2:41:14 PM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 08/29/2011 2:41:47 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

“to perpetuate the idea that all same-sex roommates, be they puppet or human, must necessarily be a gay couple ... Such assumptions narrow the aperture of what we understand as heterosexual masculinity in a really strange way.”

Exactly. I’ve noticed the effects that gay activism has had on my generation, and generally its made straight men paranoid of anything being remotely considered “gay”. The kind of close friendships seen between male friends in previous generations are now all viewed as suspicious and unmanly, and I don’t think it’s done any good at all.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 2:47:42 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: NYer

bromance?


4 posted on 08/29/2011 2:59:36 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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But “Sesame Street” has made it clear that Bert and Ernie are puppets and as such, “Do not have a sexual orientation.”

...I guess letting them commit sockomy is out of the question then...

5 posted on 08/29/2011 3:09:59 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: NYer

3 generations of teenagers joked that Bert and Ernie were gay. Then apparently some group of activists didn’t notice it was a joke.


6 posted on 08/29/2011 3:13:14 PM PDT by discostu (keep on keeping on)
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To: NYer

Which means that the disturbing rumors about Snuffleupagus trunking Elmo and “Gonzo Does Big Bird” are just that, rumors.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 3:13:28 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: discostu

Ernie already pledged to Rubber Ducky that he was “The One.”


8 posted on 08/29/2011 3:14:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NYer

I was with the author until “Achilles and Patroclus”.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 3:17:25 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: dfwgator

The way you keep adding punchlines to my posts today people are gonna think we’re Bert and Ernie ;)


10 posted on 08/29/2011 3:20:00 PM PDT by discostu (keep on keeping on)
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This makes lots more sense than J.K. Rowling’s decision to have all her male characters shag each other.

BTW: How bad did she hate them to suddenly out them for political gain?


11 posted on 08/29/2011 3:26:33 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: allmendream
There's nothing in the Iliad to suggest that Achilles and Patroclus are lovers--in fact both were sleeping with captive women. Later Greeks may have read something sexual into their friendship but it isn't in Homer. Achilles' quarrel with Agamemnon starts when Agamemnon takes his prize, a captured woman.
12 posted on 08/29/2011 3:29:35 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Quite a bit to “suggest” it. Nothing that overtly states it.

It was well accepted in Homer’s time and shortly after that the two were lovers.

Alexander the Great, for example, took it as a given when he and his lover went to a shrine for the two of them.


13 posted on 08/29/2011 3:33:50 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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14 posted on 08/29/2011 3:35:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I’ve noticed the effects that gay activism has had on my generation, and generally its made straight men paranoid of anything being remotely considered “gay”. The kind of close friendships seen between male friends in previous generations are now all viewed as suspicious and unmanly, and I don’t think it’s done any good at all.

The same is true for females. I recall a time when girlfriends (in the true sense of that word) would walk arm in arm down the street. Today, that could be interpreted as two lesbians sharing a special moment.

I was quite shocked the other morning when a Tide commercial came on tv. The commercial portrays an ultra-feminine mother, bemoaning her daughter's aversion to pink and affinity for a favored camo-hoodie. The mom expresses her disappointment that the laundry detergent got a stain out of her daughter's tomboyish outfit (which she apparently would have preferred to toss). Here is the commercial. You be the judge. IMO, this is caving to the homosexual agenda.

15 posted on 08/29/2011 3:40:50 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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The other problem with how this furthers the Left’s moral nihlism is that it repeats the lie that there is no love without sex.

This lie is what makes young people think that if they’re in “love,” they must have sex. It’s the lie that if they’re having sex, they’re in “love.”

And most importantly to the Left, this is the lie that they use to promote homosexual activity among adolescents, who should and do have strong same-sex friendships, which provide a feeling of friends that love each other.

But since the Left indoctrinates that love MUST be and ALWAYS is expressed as sex, some of these friendships become sexualized — simply because that’s what kids think you do when you have a strong feeling of love for someone.

I.e., since sex is never reserved for “the” one, that means that whenever you feel a feeling of love for someone or something, the Left says you must have sex with it.

Then once the activity is engaged or experimented with, the Left swoops in to tell kids that that definitely means they are — you guessed it, gay!

All very convenient for the Left, but a sad perversion of the normal and wonderful experience of having a best best friend in every sense of the word.


16 posted on 08/29/2011 4:26:35 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: Shadow44

I posted on how the Left exploited and perverted the normal strong same-sex friendships most people were blessed to experience in adolescence and early adulthood — the “best friend” that often became a life-long friend.

Since the Left equates any kind of love with the requirement that it must be expressed by having sex, a whole range of normal, emotionally, psychologically and socially healthy “love” relationships become perverted or avoided.

It’s almost impossible these days for two same-sex friends to live together or take a vacation together without getting the same reaction Bert & Ernie got here.

Many social scientists who study homosexuality say that one of the core social problems of homosexual men is fear of having true nonsexual friendships with other men.


17 posted on 08/29/2011 4:31:09 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: NYer
No way Bert & Ernie are gay. You should hear them when the show's over and their true personalities come out.

CAUTION FOR THE FAINT OF HEART: Crude language.

18 posted on 08/29/2011 6:00:46 PM PDT by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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I think it is interesting that an entire group of people are consumed and driven to have their identities defined around what they do with their sexual organs. Doesnt that seem odd to you? Do you walk around with the thought that you want the world to see you as Hetrosexual at every given moment? Put bumper stickers on your car? Act and refer to it constantly through conversation, what you see ??? Yes you carry hetrosexuality in the back ground of your identity but not as a foreground feature like Homosexuals. Putting everything aside I just find that odd in its own right.It seems like they must have external validation by their blatant In your face sexualization of everything. As if they did not continue the external presentation of their lifestyle it will evaporate.... odd.


19 posted on 08/29/2011 8:56:22 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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Sesame Street is awful any more anyway. Should be called Socialist Street. It’s the kind of painfully boring stuff a kid would have to sit through in a Head Start program. Believe it or not, kids managed to learn shapes, letters, and colors before we had all this education professor produced tedium.


20 posted on 08/29/2011 10:05:24 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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