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Nonfarm payroll flat in Aug, jobless rate 9.1%
Marketwatch ^ | 9.2.11

Posted on 09/02/2011 5:35:14 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

Edited on 09/02/2011 5:57:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - Job growth was unchanged in August, the weakest performance in almost a year...lower than the 53,000 gain expected.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackalypsenow; bhoeconomy; democrats; economy; employment; jobs; liberalfascism; obama; obamadepression; obamageddon; obamanomics; payrolls; recovery; unemployment; unexpected; zero
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To: MNDude

DJIA down over 230 in the first half hour on this news.


41 posted on 09/02/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: GOPRaleigh

“Please watch MSNBC right now. It is beyond funny!”

what are they saying?


42 posted on 09/02/2011 7:02:38 AM PDT by MNDude (Was Presidency of Bush's fault, Now Republican House's Fault)
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To: Free Vulcan

Americans, ALL!!! Boycott the Obama speech next Thursday evening!!! Obama, simply stated is out to destroy our economy, followed by the destruction of our great country. Wake up!!!


43 posted on 09/02/2011 7:06:36 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Free Vulcan

Now we all know the reason for the speedy appearance before joint session of congress next week, they knew these figures coming are a killer. Coupled with his jobs speech, it just screams panic.


44 posted on 09/02/2011 7:16:31 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Ancesthntr

With 40-some million on food stamps (bread lines?) and 311 million total population, back of the envelope says 13% right there.

I understand there’s all kinds of puts and takes and whatnot. But consider all the folks between the food stamp and a full-time job, and that percentage has to be much higher.


45 posted on 09/02/2011 7:27:26 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Ancesthntr

Every month this apparently has to be explained. So let’s explain it again

Non-farm payrolls, or establishment survey. The zero jobs created is derived from a survey of 10s of thousands of employers nationwide. It is derived from the payroll amounts these private and government employers report to the BLS. This only counts people who do not work on farms.

Jobless rate, or household survey. The unemployment rate is derived primarily from a survey of households. This survey asks people several questions, primarily, do you have a job or don’t you have a job. And are you actively looking for work if you don’t. The jobless rate is the ratio of people who are defined as out of work but looking for a job divided by the labor pool.

Jobless claims. The weekly jobless claims is derived primarily from first-time filings of unemployment benefits, along with continuing claims for unemployment over a longer period of time. This survey only measures people who have lost their jobs or can’t find work. It doesn’t measure people who have been hired or have jobs.

3 surveys. telling us three things. measuring 3 different things. measuring things in different ways. They are not directly related to each other.

-George


46 posted on 09/02/2011 7:29:15 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: Free Vulcan

THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO FEAR IS OBAMA HIMSELF.


47 posted on 09/02/2011 7:37:51 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I think it is important for responsible people to remind Americans that the CJCS Admiral Mullen said “ The national debt is the greatest threat to our national security.” Any politician that offers policies to increase the debt is guilty of treason against America.


48 posted on 09/02/2011 7:39:42 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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To: mwl8787

The Supreme Court must stop its dawdling and review the Obamacare mess. A decision on where that program goes from here would do much to resolve a major question of where the economy goes from here.


49 posted on 09/02/2011 8:01:52 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Free Vulcan

Yup. Look for a revision (remember, it’s survey data).

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/


50 posted on 09/02/2011 8:29:52 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: icanhasbailout

[With this plus the vote in German Parliament on 9/7, Obama could very well be giving his speech in the middle of a massive market crash.]

Oh great, the Obama and his friends will turn on the crisis mode. Wonder how many trillions he’ll ask for?


51 posted on 09/02/2011 8:57:45 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Free Vulcan

Bush’s Fault!


52 posted on 09/02/2011 9:01:53 AM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: Free Vulcan

Obama is the I can do NOTHING but blame, so-called president.


53 posted on 09/02/2011 9:05:58 AM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Calif Conservative

Anecdotal evidence regarding the employment situation:

I have a friend who has had a job placement business for 20+ years. I had dinner with her the other night and she said that when we have bad economic news (major stock meltdown for example), she will often lose a handful of her contracts to hire new employees. On the day of the S&P downgrade, she lost 100% of her contracts. Everyone of her clients decided that day that they would not take the risk of adding more employees. These employers ranged from small to mammoth and were located nationwide.

This is just one small operation. I’m sure this scenario was repeated across the US, and I’ve been waiting for these numbers after our dinner, knowing after our conversation that they would be horrible.


54 posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:06 AM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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To: Free Vulcan

Can someone explain to me, how this 9.1% unemployment rate can remain steady, when we have to create a certain level of jobs to stay even, and we’re not hitting that level month after month after month after month...


55 posted on 09/02/2011 9:08:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 year right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: Free Vulcan
Maxine ain't gonna be thrilled about this..


Jobs? How do I spell it?

G O L F .. Do you work for pmslsdnbc?

Say Hi to Al and Ed for me.

56 posted on 09/02/2011 9:16:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Free Vulcan
In my opinion.....

I don't think Oboma graduated from Harvard at all. I think he may have gotten in as a foreign exchange student, but failed. He just hung out there for a while.
I think the left saw a community organizer who could speak good "cracker" and created a fictional character out of this inner city loser simply because he was black.
BUT...to the lefts dismay, the adoration during the election went to his head. They lost control of him, and now they're stuck with this monster they created.
What is the left to do now? Oboma, and his failed psudeo-presidency, belongs to them. He is the democrat party now.

57 posted on 09/02/2011 9:37:31 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: icanhasbailout

OK...what’s going on in Germany on 9/7?


58 posted on 09/02/2011 9:39:30 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: DoughtyOne
Can someone explain to me, how this 9.1% unemployment rate can remain steady,

They only count those who are signing up for unemployment for the first time. Farm workers, self employed, college graduates, those already unemployed, and those who ran out of unemployment insurance aren't counted.
In other words, things are a LOT worse than 9.1%. (9.1% only represents the new ones.)

59 posted on 09/02/2011 9:47:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Yeah, I think the answer is in there. It still grates me that we need to create something like 350,000 new jobs each month, to take care of the new pool of workers (someone adjust the number if need be), and we’re not even coming close, yet the number remains pegged at 9.1%. This method seems absolutely worthless to me.

As you state, there’s a massive number of people who have dropped out. The number of idle people is grown larger each month.

I would rather see what the pool of working age people is, discount those that are unable to work, and compare how many of them are employed. I’m sure there would be problems with that too, but it would seem far more accurate.


60 posted on 09/02/2011 9:54:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 year right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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