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Perry's egghead, Fox's pollster
Politico ^ | Sept. 2, 2011 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:18:19 AM PDT by Al B.

Fox News released its first poll Thursday since Rick Perry's entry into the presidential race, showing the Texas governor drawing 26 percent of the GOP primary vote and leading Mitt Romney by 8 points.

What caught one reader's attention, though, wasn't the size of Perry's lead, but the name of Fox's Republican pollster: Shaw & Company Research, a Texas-based firm that conducts the Fox survey in cooperation with the Democratic pollster Anderson Robbins Research. Continue Reading

The Shaw in Shaw & Company is Daron Shaw, a University of Texas political science professor and veteran of several GOP campaigns, whose name has been in the news a bit lately.

That's because Shaw is one of the starring players in Sasha Issenberg's e-book, "Rick Perry and His Eggheads: Inside the Brainiest Political Operation in America," which details a groundbreaking set of experiments that Shaw and three other academics conducted inside Perry's 2006 reelection campaign.

The Perry campaign allowed the so-called eggheads to run tests on "anything [they] could figure out how to randomize, from lawn signs to television ads," Issenberg writes, and they assembled a provocative set of findings on which kinds of campaign tactics really work.

Fast forward five years and Perry is running for president and Shaw is one of the lead pollsters for the most influential cable network, by far, among GOP primary voters.

Shaw told me this morning that there's no conflict of interest involved, since he wasn't paid by Perry for the campaign experiments and "because we're stupid, we never entered into any business relationship with Perry."

Nor, he said, was his role to advise Perry's reelection bid on strategy: "We'd just present the results and then the Perry people would do want they want."

Shaw was an analyst on the 1992 George H. W. Bush reelection campaign and the 2000 George W. Bush campaign. He and his Democratic counterpart, Chris Anderson, took over the Fox News poll earlier this year, but Shaw has been on the decision desk for the network going back to the 2002 cycle.

Though he has worked in political consulting, Shaw said he doesn't take federal or gubernatorial clients so as to avoid "even the appearance of a conflict of interest."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foxnews; palin; perry; perrydirtytricks; perryfakepolls; rinoperry; sarahpalin; watergateredux
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This was the poll that said Palin should stay out of the race.
1 posted on 09/02/2011 9:18:21 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK

Ping!


2 posted on 09/02/2011 9:19:09 AM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Al B.

I KNEW IT.


3 posted on 09/02/2011 9:20:46 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the 1 Tru Conservative that can unite us all and Save America" ;)
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To: Al B.; Virginia Ridgerunner; Clyde5445; RedMDer; trisham; Bigtigermike; Lakeshark; ...
Al B. wrote: This was the poll that said Palin should stay out of the race.


GAME ON!


Sarah Palin's Busy Ping List!


4 posted on 09/02/2011 9:21:58 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Al B.

I smell cooked numbers.


5 posted on 09/02/2011 9:22:23 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Al B.

This reporter would be a lot more convincing if he showed the poll is out of sync with others. All the polls I have heard about lately show Perry jumping ahead of Romney, so to make the case that the numbers are cooked, some evidence would be useful.


6 posted on 09/02/2011 9:25:05 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: Al B.

This would be more significant if the poll results were at odds with others showing a significant Perry surge. In fact, Rasmussen shows him as the only candidate beating Obama. I remain a Bachmann supporter, but am convinced that Perry’s opponents will have to do better than that to take him down. His true test will be in the upcoming debates. If he is not at least slowed down in those debates, it is likely that he will be the nominee.


7 posted on 09/02/2011 9:25:21 AM PDT by rob777
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To: Al B.; DJ MacWoW; RedMDer; STARWISE; trisham; Syncro; vox_freedom; musicman; Jane Long; ...
Oh, gee whiz, I guess we now know why the question was asked about SARAH PALIN!



RUN SARAH RUN!

GO ROGUE!

8 posted on 09/02/2011 9:28:29 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Al B.
"...showing the Texas governor drawing 26 percent"

HEADLINE: 74% DO NOT WANT PERRY~!

9 posted on 09/02/2011 9:29:26 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Al B.

Rigged poll for Perry, aimed squarely at Palin supporters. It figures.


10 posted on 09/02/2011 9:31:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Mr. K; Rush Limbaugh; holdonnow

^5



HEADLINE: 26% WANT SARAH PALIN TO RUN!!!!


11 posted on 09/02/2011 9:32:24 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: org.whodat

yes... that’s it... every pollster is cooking their numbers to help Perry!

ROFL

You people need to get a grip.


12 posted on 09/02/2011 9:32:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Al B.

Is that the same poll that effectively said Sarah Palin effectively held 25% of the GOP primary vote without campaigning.


13 posted on 09/02/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: freespirited

All polls are cooked. They are used to influence people. Elections count. Polls are propaganda.


14 posted on 09/02/2011 9:33:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

IT’S THE PALIN QUESTION, but nice try.


15 posted on 09/02/2011 9:33:30 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Al B.
The title of this thread should read.

Rick Perry should stay out of the race 74% of Republicans don't want him to run!

16 posted on 09/02/2011 9:34:27 AM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: onyx

we knew it, we stated it days ago


17 posted on 09/02/2011 9:34:31 AM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Polls are slanted and meant to influence. They are one of the most used propaganda tools there are.


18 posted on 09/02/2011 9:34:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: onyx

Do you want to ping cincinatuswife? LOL


19 posted on 09/02/2011 9:35:47 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: onyx; Mr. K
EXACTLY!

THE SOCIAL PROGRAMMING ATTEMPTS CONTINUE.

20 posted on 09/02/2011 9:35:59 AM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I said this did not meet the smell test, fox needs to get a new pollster, I said nothing about other polls.


21 posted on 09/02/2011 9:36:24 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Tempest

LOL...that’s how I took it, given the nature of the poll and the way the Palin question just appeared out of the blue.


22 posted on 09/02/2011 9:36:30 AM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; P-Marlowe; Cincinatus' Wife

Sorry, but this poll was conducted to injure Perry. The lead off last night by Chris Wallace was the inane question in this poll: “Which candidate is too extreme?”

Wallace led with that at 6 pm and Perry looks bad on that question and Romney looks like St Francis communing with the gentle creatures.

If you haven’t figured out that Fox’s pick is Mitt Romney, then you have been listening.

Did you hear O’Reilly support RomneyCare point by point last night?


23 posted on 09/02/2011 9:37:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: advertising guy

Yep. We sure did. Fox is in cahoots to try to stop her. This guy is sleazy. To what depths will he sink?


24 posted on 09/02/2011 9:37:22 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

bump.


25 posted on 09/02/2011 9:38:06 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: onyx

I haven’t been too impressed with Perry’s progressive style campaign. Seems a bit too similar to those used by Obama and his academics.


26 posted on 09/02/2011 9:38:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: mazda77

Nope.


27 posted on 09/02/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Al B.

I love our corporate media masters. They always have our best interest at heart.


28 posted on 09/02/2011 9:38:46 AM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: onyx

and why FOX NEWS can kiss my ass

fair and balanced ?

BS

and where is the RUSH THREAD TODAY

grrrrrrrrrr


29 posted on 09/02/2011 9:39:11 AM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: onyx
Every poll left, right, center, paid for, or done for free shows Palin trailing badly. Show me your magical poll done by someone not in on the Perry polling scam that shows Palin leading the pack or that shows that people desperately want her to run.

Don't got one? lol

OH@! that's right! they are all in on it! it's a conspiracy!

lol

30 posted on 09/02/2011 9:39:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: xzins

LOL. Sell your theory elsewhere.


31 posted on 09/02/2011 9:39:53 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: xzins

It’s apparent to anyone that the Fox is wearing Mittens.


32 posted on 09/02/2011 9:40:03 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the 1 Tru Conservative that can unite us all and Save America" ;)
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To: Al B.

This is nothing new for Fox! They are shameful


33 posted on 09/02/2011 9:40:32 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or flippin bust)
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To: South40; grey_whiskers

this is a rather funny and insightful thread.


34 posted on 09/02/2011 9:40:50 AM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: advertising guy

I didn’t find Rush’s thread either! Well, we’re here and I pinged Rush!


35 posted on 09/02/2011 9:41:14 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Al B.

I keep saying it over and over, the “science” of political polling is dead! It is NOT just Fox, it is all of them! Each and every pollster has an agenda, this is not even debatable.


36 posted on 09/02/2011 9:42:26 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or flippin bust)
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To: onyx

It was also constructed to injure EVERY conservative republican candidate, to include Sarah Palin if she decides to run:

Another part of the poll was: Blame Bush or Blame Obama?

A huge majority said: Blame Bush.

Who will you support if Palin decides not to run?


37 posted on 09/02/2011 9:42:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: onyx

saw it.....and TGO too...wouldn’t miss TGO tonight for anything


38 posted on 09/02/2011 9:42:54 AM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: Al B.
Here's a photo from Texas A&M as published in The Texas Tribune which will cause trouble for Perry in the proper hands:

From Animal House to Storm Trooper in one easy lesson.

Cheers!

39 posted on 09/02/2011 9:42:54 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mr. K

In a field of 8 or 9, 26% is a commanding lead. The important question not mentioned is “who is your second choice if your first is not available?”. If a candidate leads among second choices, he or she can easily win the nomination.


40 posted on 09/02/2011 9:43:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Try real hard to pay attention, will ya? She is not a declared candidate, but even in this idiot poll she came in third, BESTING ALL THE DECLARED CANDIDATES, EXCEPT THE TWO FRONT RUNNERS.

This poll asked the PALIN QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER SHE SHOULD RUN?

(Rick Perry doesn’t want her to run).


41 posted on 09/02/2011 9:43:57 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

saw it.....and TGO too...wouldn’t miss TGO tonight for anything


42 posted on 09/02/2011 9:44:37 AM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: Tempest
Is that the same poll that effectively said Sarah Palin effectively held 25% of the GOP primary vote without campaigning.

Not campaigning???? She's done NOTHING but campaign since 2008. She quit her day job to campaign! 25% is her ceiling. That's it. As you well know there are several polls out there that show that 65% of the voters have made their miund up to vote for anyone but Palin. She can't win!

43 posted on 09/02/2011 9:44:48 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: Al B.

Daron Shaw

44 posted on 09/02/2011 9:44:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: hobbes1; onyx

The Fox “Culture Warriors” said on national TV that they support Gay Marriage, they are on record being supportive of pro-choice.

The only consistently conservative voice for social conservatives is now Sean Hannity.

RedEye at 3 am in the morning is 100% supportive of the gay lifestyle.

Still, Fox is the only place to sometimes get conservative news. FoxBusiness might be better, but it’s not part of my satellite package.


45 posted on 09/02/2011 9:45:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Al B.
Looks like I was spot on in this post.

Texans love Texas above all else; so Perry has Texans from all over shouting support in an electoral campaign version of the Diamond Strategy.

Cheers!

46 posted on 09/02/2011 9:46:04 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: xzins

I’ll have to give considerable thought to that should Palin not run, but I fully expect her to run and to GO TEA PARTY ROGUE.


47 posted on 09/02/2011 9:47:01 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

Actually, all the polls I have seen show that if Palin entered she hurts Romney, Bachmann and all the also rans, with no affect what so ever on Perry. So, Palin entry would help Perry.


48 posted on 09/02/2011 9:49:09 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; onyx

Palin has stated that she has never won a poll. Ever. But won elections. Polls are useless. Elections get one in office. But if you want to buy what the MSM is selling, you can.


49 posted on 09/02/2011 9:49:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: hobbes1; onyx

The Fox “Culture Warriors” said on national TV that they support Gay Marriage, they are on record being supportive of pro-choice.

The only consistently conservative voice for social conservatives is now Sean Hannity.

RedEye at 3 am in the morning is 100% supportive of the gay lifestyle.

Still, Fox is the only place to sometimes get conservative news. FoxBusiness might be better, but it’s not part of my satellite package.


50 posted on 09/02/2011 9:51:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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